Re: [CCAMP] Framework and Information model for G.709 Optical Transport Networks (OTN) consideration post-IETF82
Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Tue, 29 November 2011 12:01 UTC
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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Framework and Information model for G.709 Optical Transport Networks (OTN) consideration post-IETF82
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Sergio, My comment actually comes from two meetings ago and was based on the routing and signaling drafts each having their own compatibility sections (sections 6 and 6.5, respectively), and the framework not having one at all. As you note, control plane compatibility is something typically addressed in GMPLS. I think the framework needs to cover what approach is being taken to ensure *control plane* operation when a pre-G709v3 GMPLS node exchanges CP messages with a G709v3 GMPLS node. In short, the framework should say *what* is being done with respect to CP compatibility, the routing and signaling documents should say *how* CP compatibility is supported. Note that my request was not about data plane compatibility. Lou On 11/25/2011 3:52 AM, BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO) wrote: > Hi CCAMP, > > as outcome of the Framework and Information model for G.709 Optical > Transport Networks (OTN) presentation, Lou Berger asked co-authors to > provide a new section in the framework document dealing with backward > compatibility, as summary with respect to what is already present/will > be present in the encoding documents. > > In our opinion, the first thing to do is deciding which are the > scenarios that have to be taken into account. > > As hypothesis we would like to consider network element domains > composed either of G.709v1 or G709v3 network elements, > so without having a mix of network element in the same domains. The > motivation for this is that operators > would not be happy with the mix because managing control plane versions > implementing very different features > is not practical from a network operation point of view. > > Please note that backward compatibility issues are to be considered > between GMPLS versions. So for G.709v1 NE we mean > a network element with G.709v1 HW and support of RFC4328 only. > > The case of a NE with G709v1 HW supporting our GMPLS drafts does not > have backward compatibility issues because it can be considered as a > new node with limitations. > > Said this the candidate scenarios may be: > > 1) Interworking between a G.709v1 domain with a G.709v3 domain (path is > terminated by one G.709v1 node and G.709v3 node) > > 2) Interworking in the case of a G.709v1 domain – a G.709v3 domain – > G709v1 domain (G.709v3 domain in the middle of two G.709v1 domains. The > path being terminated on G.709v1 equipment.) > > We'd like to hear the opinion of the WG whether CCAMP consider > exhaustive the type of scenarios proposed, before proceeding with any > modification to the document. > > Thanks > > Sergio and co-authors > > > *SERGIO BELOTTI* > > ALCATEL-LUCENT > Terrestrial System Architect > Optics Portfolio Evolution > > via Trento 30 , Vimercate(MI) Italy > T: +39 0396863033 > *Sergio.Belotti@alcatel-lucent.com* > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp
- [CCAMP] Framework and Information model for G.709… BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)
- Re: [CCAMP] Framework and Information model for G… John E Drake
- Re: [CCAMP] Framework and Information model for G… Lou Berger
- Re: [CCAMP] Framework and Information model for G… Lou Berger
- Re: [CCAMP] Framework and Information model for G… John E Drake
- Re: [CCAMP] Framework and Information model for G… Lou Berger
- [CCAMP] R: Framework and Information model for G.… BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)
- [CCAMP] R: Framework and Information model for G.… BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)
- Re: [CCAMP] Framework and Information model for G… John E Drake
- Re: [CCAMP] R: Framework and Information model fo… Lou Berger
- [CCAMP] R: R: Framework and Information model for… BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)