Re: [CCAMP] [Teas] Enhanced VPN discussions in various WGs

"Dongjie (Jimmy)" <jie.dong@huawei.com> Thu, 14 November 2019 02:07 UTC

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From: "Dongjie (Jimmy)" <jie.dong@huawei.com>
To: David Sinicrope <david.sinicrope=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "adrian@olddog.co.uk" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>, "teas@ietf.org" <teas@ietf.org>
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Hi Dave,

Thanks for your comments. 

The VPN+ framework document describes the framework and candidate technologies in different network layers which can be used together to provide VPN+ service. FlexE is listed as one of the candidate technologies in underlay data plane. In VPN+ related drafts, there is no description about exposing detailed information of FlexE. On contrary, abstraction is used to represent different underlay technologies with a unified manner to the network. 

Hope this helps to solve your concerns.

Best regards,
Jie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Teas [mailto:teas-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of David Sinicrope
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:00 PM
> To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; teas@ietf.org
> Cc: 'ccamp@ietf. org' <ccamp@ietf.org>;
> Subject: Re: [Teas] Enhanced VPN discussions in various WGs
> 
> Hi Adrian,
> Thanks for providing the cross reference, this is very useful.
> 
> How is the VPN+ work below related to GMPLS Routing and Signaling
> Framework for Flexible Ethernet (FlexE) draft-izh-ccamp-flexe-fwk-07?
> There are some serious concerns with the draft above and exposure of FlexE
> constructs that OIF FlexE notes should not be exposed.
> e.g., FlexE Group, FlexE Channel
> OIF FlexE indicates that it should present to the upper layer as Ethernet with no
> indication of FlexE in the dataplane i.e., it looks like any other Ethernet interface
> (with perhaps enhanced QoS capabilities.)
> 
> I see what looks to be exposure of similar FlexE constructs in the TEAS draft and
> other drafts. (e.g., FlexE Channels)
> 
> It would be good for these drafts to align with OIF specification of FlexE such
> that these constructs remain transparent and thereby ensuring they are
> leveraging what OIF specified and not variants.  i.e., present an Ethernet
> interface to the upper layer vs exposing FlexE constructs OIF says remain
> transparent. One exception to this would of course be the management and
> FlexE models which would be required to configure the FlexE links.  These of
> course should be liaised to OIF with an invite for that community to review and
> comment the work ongoing in IETF (CCAMP).
> 
> Thanks,
> Dave
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Teas <teas-bounces@ietf.org>; on behalf of "Adrian uk>"
> <adrian@olddog.co.uk>;
> Organization: Old Dog Consulting
> Reply-To: "Adrian uk>" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>;
> Date: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 8:28 AM
> To: TEAS WG <teas@ietf.org>;
> Subject: [Teas] Enhanced VPN discussions in various WGs
> 
>     Hi,
> 
>     TEAS is the home of draft-ietf-teas-enhanced-vpn, and that provides an
>     anchor for a lot of VPN+ work going on across the IETF in Singapore.
> 
>     It is worth a heads-up on this to help you track what is going on and pull
>     together the pieces in case you are interested in this approach to network
>     slicing. Apologies if I have missed anything.
> 
>     TEAS
>     - A Framework for Enhanced Virtual Private Networks (VPN+) Service
>        draft-ietf-teas-enhanced-vpn-01
>     - Control plane considerations of enhanced VPN
>        draft-dong-teas-enhanced-vpn-control-plane-00
> 
>     LSR
>     - IGP Extensions for Segment Routing Based Enhanced VPN
>       draft-dong-lsr-sr-enhanced-vpn
> 
>     BESS
>     - BGP-LS Filters: A Framework for Network Slicing and Enhanced VPNs
>       draft-drake-bess-enhanced-vpn
> 
>     SPRING
>     - Segment Routing for Enhanced VPN Service
>       draft-dong-spring-sr-for-enhanced-vpn
> 
>     I also note draft-dong-idr-bgpls-sr-enhanced-vpn, but don't see it on any
>     agendas this time around.
> 
>     Cheers,
>     Adrian
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