Re: [CCAMP] WG Last Call: WSON documents - draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling
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From: "Giovanni Martinelli (giomarti)" <giomarti@cisco.com>
To: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>
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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG Last Call: WSON documents - draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling
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On 30 Oct 2013, at 13:58, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote: > Authors, > > Sorry, I missed an important one when writing up my notes: > > Somewhere you should state that the LSPs signaled per the document must use > Switching Type = WSON-LSC [WSON-OSPF] > Encoding Type = Lambda [RFC3471] > Label format = per [RFC6205] > > You should probably also state that this draft updates 5205 in that it > permits use of the defined label type for WSON-LSC. This will need to > be mentioned in both the abstract and in the body. > Taken thx G > Lou > > On 10/29/2013 2:28 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >> Authors, >> I have some comments on this document. Most are strictly >> editorial. Note that I'm the document shepherd, see RFC 4858 for more >> information. >> >> - Please address my general comments on the WSON document set >> >> - in document >> s/Bi-Directional/Bidirectional >> >> - Abstract >> s/Such extensions are necessary/Such extensions are applicable >> drop "bidirectional LSPs, and" >> >> - Section 1 >> >> These extensions build on previous work for the control of lambda >> and G.709 based networks. >> >> Please add appropriate references. >> >> It seems to that it would be worth mentioning the rwa-info document >> and the encoding document in this section. >> >> - section 3.1 >> s/MUST/needs to >> >> - Section 3.3 >> s/MAY/can >> s/MAY/need to be >> >> - Section 3.4 >> s/MAY/can >> >> - section 3.5 title >> s/Out of Scope/Optical Impairments >> >> - Section 4.2: >> To target a specific node, this section defines a WSON_Processing >> object as part of the LSP_REQUIRED_ATTRIBUTE and follows procedures >> defined in [RSVP-RO]. >> >> The content of this object is defined in the subsequent sections. >> (See Section 4.3 for <RBInformation> TLV and Section 4.4 for >> <WavelengthSelection> TLV, respectively.) >> >> Do you mean >> >> To target a specific node, this section defines a WSON_Processing >> HOP Attribute TLV which is processed according to the procedures >> defined in [RSVP-RO]. >> >> The content of this TLV is defined in the subsequent sections. >> (See Section 4.3 for <RBInformation> sub-TLV and Section 4.4 for >> <WavelengthSelection> sub-TLV, respectively.) >> >> if yes, also need to s/WSON Processing object/WSON Processing TLV >> in rest of document. >> >> - Section 4.2 >> You need to define the Length. Perhaps. replace the whole definition: >> OLD >> >> The WSON Processing object encoding is defined as: >> >> 0 1 2 3 >> 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> | Type | Length | >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> | | >> ~ Value ~ >> | | >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> NEW >> The WSON Processing carries sub-TLVs of the same format as a HOP >> Attributes TLV, as defined in [RSVP-RO]. >> >> - Section 4.3. "... PathErr SHALL be generated." Which code/value? >> Are you sure? Generally malformed messages don't result in a PathErr. >> What is an upstream node expected to do with the PathErr? >> >> How should other parsing errors be handled? >> >> What about allocation errors? >> >> - Section 4.4 >> >> I'm really confused by this sub-tlv. Is it intended to be an end to >> end construct, information that is used/updated hop-by-hop, or used at >> specific hops only? I suspect that the desire is for this to be >> communicated end to end and accessible at each hop. If so, it looks >> like then intent is for this to be carried as a TLV in the >> LSP_ATTRIBUTES Object. Is this correct? If so the section needs to be >> updated accordingly. >> >> - Section 5 >> >> I'm really not sure that this section adds anything beyond what is >> already stated in other documents/RFCs, and it doesn't match this >> documenting being a protocol specification. I can see some informative >> value in the third paragraph. I suggest moving just this paragraph to >> the end of section 4.3 and dropping the rest. >> >> - Section 6 >> I think this section needs to be replaced. Perhaps use the following >> which is based on draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3 >> >> This document is builds on the mechanisms defined in [RFC3473], >> and only differs in specific information communicated. As such, >> this document introduces no new security considerations to the >> existing GMPLS signaling protocols. See [RFC3473], for >> details of the supported security measures. Additionally, >> [RFC5920] provides an overview of security vulnerabilities and >> protection mechanisms for the GMPLS control plane. >> >> - Section 7 >> This section needs a bit of work See >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-12#section-11 >> for an example. Contact me off list if you think need help with >> specific text. >> >> That's it on this one, >> Lou >> >> >> On 10/22/2013 4:34 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >>> >>> All, >>> Given the recent draft submission deadline and only one comment being >>> received to date, we'd like to extend the WG more time for review. >>> >>> These drafts represent significant work by the authors and WG, so please >>> review and let the WG know what you think (positive or negative)! >>> >>> Please have all comments in by October 29. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Lou (and Deborah) >>> >>> On 10/1/2013 12:34 PM, Lou Berger wrote: >>>> All, >>>> >>>> This mail begins working group last call on the WSON documents. As >>>> there are 6 documents in this set, the last call will be three weeks. >>>> The documents included in the last call are: >>>> >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-info-18 >>>> (Informational, IPR Disclosed) >>>> >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-general-constraint-encode-11 >>>> (Standards Track, IPR Disclosed) >>>> >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-rwa-wson-encode-21 >>>> (Standards Track) >>>> >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-general-constraints-ospf-te-05 >>>> (Standards Track, IPR Disclosed) >>>> >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signal-compatibility-ospf-12 >>>> (Standards Track, IPR Disclosed) >>>> >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-signaling-06 (Standards >>>> Track) Also has one open issue that will need to be resolved as part of >>>> LC, see http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/ccamp/trac/ticket/52. >>>> >>>> This working group last call ends on October 22. Comments should be >>>> sent to the CCAMP mailing list. Please remember to include the >>>> technical basis for any comments. >>>> >>>> Positive comments, e.g., "I've reviewed this document and believe it is >>>> ready for publication", are welcome! >>>> >>>> Please note that we're still missing some IPR statements. Any >>>> forthcoming publication request will be delayed by late IPR >>>> statements/disclosures. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Lou (and Deborah) >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> CCAMP mailing list >>>> CCAMP@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CCAMP mailing list >>> CCAMP@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >>> >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> CCAMP mailing list >> CCAMP@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp >> >> >> >>
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- Re: [CCAMP] WG Last Call: WSON documents - rwa-in… Leeyoung
- Re: [CCAMP] WG Last Call: WSON documents - rwa-in… Giovanni Martinelli (giomarti)
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- Re: [CCAMP] WG Last Call: WSON documents - draft-… Lou Berger
- Re: [CCAMP] WG Last Call: WSON documents - draft-… Leeyoung
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