Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (3304)
Julien Meuric <julien.meuric@orange.com> Thu, 02 August 2012 23:28 UTC
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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (3304)
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Hi Dimitri. The initial trigger of the discussion has been resolved, but I wanted to comment your introspection below. Whether it is revertive or not (as said by Zafar), LSP rerouting "increases recovery time" with respect to 1+1 protection, but *decreases* resource consumption with respect to 1+1. Thus the rationale for LSP rerouting at large. Resource consumption increases only (slightly) when you compare non-revertive rerouting with revertive rerouting. This over-consumption is only true during failure time, which is not supposed to be a long situation. Minimizing this short-life over-consumption is usually not a requirement, while reversion (very) often is. My 2 (Canadian) cents, Julien Le 02/08/2012 17:24, Papadimitriou, Dimitri (Dimitri) a écrit : > I miss the rationales for a "scenario" that increases recovery time*and* resource consumption.
- [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (3304) RFC Errata System
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Ong, Lyndon
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… John E Drake
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Papadimitriou, Dimitri (Dimitri)
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Ong, Lyndon
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… John E Drake
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… John E Drake
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Lou Berger
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Lou Berger
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Ong, Lyndon
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Sidd Aanand
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Ong, Lyndon
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Papadimitriou, Dimitri (Dimitri)
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Rajan Rao
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Bijan Jabbari
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Ong, Lyndon
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… John E Drake
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… John E Drake
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Rajan Rao
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Ong, Lyndon
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Lou Berger
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… John E Drake
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… John E Drake
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Ong, Lyndon
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Julien Meuric
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Lou Berger
- Re: [CCAMP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4872 (… Adrian Farrel