Re: [CCAMP] YANG Alarm Module in CCAMP?

stefan vallin <stefan@wallan.se> Wed, 10 May 2017 18:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] YANG Alarm Module in CCAMP?
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Hi!
> 
> not IETF but ITU-T.

i think that would be a mistake by IETF…
We have to admit, alarms is a fundamental piece of any device or controller.
IETF has a good history of defining *working and interoperable* standards.
Why should IETF skip alarms?

And, note well, the ietf-alarms module is not even close to the X.733 piece from a design perspective.
I am just referring to the principle of a generic alarm module.
/s

Stefan Vallin
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