Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-zheng-ccamp-client-topo-yang-10

Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com> Fri, 19 February 2021 14:58 UTC

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From: Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com>
To: Italo Busi <Italo.Busi@huawei.com>, 'tom petch' <ietfc@btconnect.com>, "Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate)" <sergio.belotti@nokia.com>, Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-zheng-ccamp-client-topo-yang-10
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Hi Italo, all,

The name and the title of the draft can be changed during the adoption, i.e. the chairs can ask the authors to publish the draft with a different (v00) title/draft name.

Tracking will not be an issue because when publishing the new draft it will be possible to mark which draft it replaces, and we will indicate this one.

BR
Daniele  

-----Original Message-----
From: CCAMP <ccamp-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Italo Busi
Sent: den 18 februari 2021 22:19
To: 'tom petch' <ietfc@btconnect.com>om>; Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate) <sergio.belotti@nokia.com>om>; Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Cc: CCAMP <ccamp@ietf.org>rg>; ccamp-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-zheng-ccamp-client-topo-yang-10

Sergio, Tom,

Thanks for your comments.

The scope of the document has been discussed in the past but it seems that the text in the draft has not been properly updated and it needs some clean-up.

Based on past discussion, the scope of the proposed YANG model is to address these two use cases:
    - ETH Access Links Discovery
    - ETH TE Topology Discovery

See also: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/108/materials/slides-108-ccamp-2-a-yang-data-model-for-ethernet-te-topology-03

It is worth clarifying that:
- the YANG model is aligned with the scope: the network-types (also to augment the packet TE topology, as suggested by TEAS experts);
- the title of the draft (A YANG Data Model for Ethernet TE Topology) and the abstract have been fixed since the -06 revision;
- the draft name and text descriptions need to be aligned with the scope.

I agree with Sergio that these fixes can be done after WG adoption.

Italo (on behalf of co-authors)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tom petch [mailto:ietfc@btconnect.com]
> Sent: mercoledì 10 febbraio 2021 12:39
> To: Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate) <sergio.belotti@nokia.com>om>; 
> Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
> Cc: CCAMP <ccamp@ietf.org>rg>; ccamp-chairs@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on 
> draft-zheng-ccamp-client-topo-
> yang-10
> 
> From: CCAMP <ccamp-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Belotti, Sergio 
> (Nokia -
> IT/Vimercate) <sergio.belotti@nokia.com>
> Sent: 10 February 2021 10:59
> 
> Hi Daniele, Fatai, all,
> Yes/support WG adoption (as contributor).
> 
> On the other hand,
> I have a basic comment that can be addressed after adoption.
> The draft is talking about generic client topology over transport 
> network but in fact is addressing Ethernet with TE attributes only.
> 
> I think the name of the draft is misleading , why do not name draft 
> like eth- client-topo, specifying the reference layer technology. In 
> the introduction the draft is saying "This document defines a data 
> model of all client-layer Topology", but this is not the case , since Ethernet only is described.
> 
> I think a better description of the use-case depicted in the draft 
> should be worked out after adoption.
> 
> <tp>
> I think you make excellent points but think they need to be addressed 
> before adoption.
> 
> You are saying that the Introduction is wrong which makes it possible 
> that people will be misled as to what they are supporting the adoption of.
> 
> And changing the title makes it harder to track the history of the 
> I-D.  I know of one case where the WG AD lost track of the past history of an I-D as a result.
> The datatracker makes it possible to find previous names but you have 
> to know that there are previous names and to go looking for them.  The 
> time for change is before adoption
> 
> Tom Petch
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Sergio
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: CCAMP <ccamp-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Daniele Ceccarelli
> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 1:29 PM
> To: CCAMP <ccamp@ietf.org>
> Subject: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on 
> draft-zheng-ccamp-client-topo-yang-
> 10
> 
> CCAMP,
> 
> All the IPR declarations regarding 
> draft-zheng-ccamp-client-topo-yang-10have
> been collected, this starts the polling for its adoption by CCAMP.
> 
> The poll will last 2 weeks and will end on Tuesday February 23rd.
> 
> Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support"
> and a motivation for  your reply, mandatory for the "not support" and 
> nice to have for the "support".
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Daniele & Fatai
> 
> 

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