Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-flexe-yang-cm-03
tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> Sun, 12 June 2022 11:25 UTC
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From: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-flexe-yang-cm-03
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From: wangminxue@chinamobile.com <wangminxue@chinamobile.com> Sent: 11 June 2022 15:17 Hi,TP! Thank you so much for your valuable suggestions and comments!! We have carefully analyzed these comments this week and held several rounds of discussions. So it takes us some time for reply. Pls see inline! //to TP and WG chairs: the key confusion is caused by whether it requires a new ifType. Since the application of ifType is not necessary, the authors would like to fix the other comments after the WG adoption. Otherwise it may require a new adoption to the 04 revision. We would like to hear the opinions from chairs, thank you. <tp> I agree that everything apart from the ifType can be fixed after adoption but that ifType needs fixing before adoption ie in the next five days. Squatting is always unacceptable and anything that suggests otherwise needs fixing ASAP; a revised I-D without any reference to a new ifType would be a good fix. Tom Petch 发件人:tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com> 时 间:2022-06-03 17:08:17 From: CCAMP <ccamp-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of wangminxue@chinamobile.com <wangminxue@chinamobile.com> Sent: 02 June 2022 01:23 Hi,WG! We have updated the draft of FlexE configuration model according the last IETF meeting. Pls see as follows. <tp> Quite a lot needs doing to this I-D YANG module has no Copyright statement which means --- no copyright! //Authors: yes, thank you for reminding. Copyright statement will be added in the module. IANA Considerations are wrong. Go read RFC8892 and follow the procedures there for registering a new iftype. //Authors:Considering some Ethernet interfaces could work in the FlexE mode, it's more proper not to confine the specific implementation. So the code "if:type = 'ianaift:flexEclient' will be deleted, and accordingly there is no need to consider a new iftype. Meanwhile, I think it wrong to put 'flexEclient' in the module - the expert review may require a different value and then confusion can reign. You should use a placeholder as you should do - but do not do - for the RFC number until a value is assigned. I oppose adoption until this is fixed - it is very bad practice IMHO. You can apply for the iftype here and now and should do so. Start applying - now! //Authors: as discussed, this part will be removed from I-D according to the considerations above. augment "/if:interfaces/if:interface" { when "if:type = 'ianaift:flexEclient'" { description "Applies to FlexE client interfaces"; } prefix in the YANG modules do not match IANA Considerations. //Authors: yes, the inconsistency between revision 02 and 03, will be fixed in new revision. "YANG Module Names" registry: Name: ietf-interfaces-flexe-client Namespace: urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-interfaces-flexe-client Prefix: flexecl Reference: this document module name in the YANG modules do not match IANA Considerations YANG import MUST have a reference and that MUST be a Normative Reference in the I-D //Authors: Normative reference to "RFC 7224: IANA Interface Type YANG Module" wil be added to “import iana-if-type” and the Normative References section. YANG needs references, at least to FlexE if not more //Authors: normative reference to OIF FlexE IA 2.1 will be added in YANG module. s.1.2.1 Ethernet PHY, FlexE PHY could do with a reference //Authors: normative reference to IEEE 802.3 and OIF FlexE IA 2.1 will be added in s.1.2.1. http://tools<http://tools/> should be https://datatracker<https://datatracker/> //Authors: fixed in new revision. six authors are generally seen as too many //Authors: it is still too early to decide the authors’ contributions. We would like to reduce to five authors when I-D is in stage of WGLC or somewhere else. I do not see enough differentiation in the module description clauses. I think that each should mention the other and why it exists. //Authors: actually s4.1 and s4.2 is one module. Would be clarified it in new revision. bandwidth lacks a YANG units clause //Authors: the unit of bandwidth is given in descriptions. timeslot-list could be enforced by a regex //Authors: we think it is already clearly enought for recongizing the time-slots. For implementation reasons, it is recommended not to change if it is not necessary . Tom Petch ________________________________ ------------------------------------- 王敏学/ Wang Minxue 中国移动通信研究院 基础网络技术研究所 / China Mobile Research Institute 地址: 北京市西城区宣武门西大街32号创新大厦,100053 电话: 010-15801696688-33202 传真:010-63601087 Email: wangminxue@chinamobile.com ------------------------------------- From: tom petch<mailto:ietfc@btconnect.com> Date: 2022-06-04 00:15 To: Daniele Ceccarelli<mailto:daniele.ceccarelli=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; CCAMP<mailto:ccamp@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-flexe-yang-cm-03 From: CCAMP <ccamp-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Daniele Ceccarelli <daniele.ceccarelli=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org> Sent: 03 June 2022 15:57 Working group, All the IPR declarations have been collected, we can start a two weeks poll on making draft-wang-ccamp-flexe-yang-cm-03 as a CCAMP working group document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or "no/do not support" and a motivation for your reply, mandatory for the "not support" and nice to have for the "support". <tp> Do not support - vehemently. This I-D squats on a registry that is key to the working of the IETF. Such behaviour should never be tolerated. The authors should follow the defined procedures to request a value n the registry and should never have produced this I-D until that procedure was under way. The Expert Reviewers need to know what is going on. See my remarks earlier today for more details. Tom Petch The polling will end on Friday June 17th . Thanks, Daniele & Fatai _______________________________________________ CCAMP mailing list CCAMP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp
- [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-flex… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-… tom petch
- Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-… wangminxue@chinamobile.com
- Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-… Yangfan(Fan,IP Standards)
- Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-… tom petch
- [CCAMP] Fw: WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-… niu.xiaobing
- Re: [CCAMP] Fw: WG adoption poll on draft-wang-cc… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-… Yangfan(Fan,IP Standards)
- Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-… 韩柳燕
- Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-… wangminxue@chinamobile.com
- Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-… Liang Felix
- Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-… Yangfan(Fan,IP Standards)
- Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-… zhenlin.tan@hotmail.com
- Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-… wang.qilei
- Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-… Weiqiang Cheng
- Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-… 庞冉(联通集团中国联通研究院-本部)
- Re: [CCAMP] WG adoption poll on draft-wang-ccamp-… Daniele Ceccarelli