Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt
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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt
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Jonas A structural thought. You have a number of 'enumerations' such as coding-modulation and tdm-type. How stable are they? How does their life cycle compare with that of the rest of the YANG module? There is a tendency, prevalent in MIB modules but carried across to YANG, of seeing these as more volatile and being placed in a separate module, a separate RFC even (e.g interfaces and interface types), so that when they change, rather than having to reissue the entire module, just the module with the enumerations is reissued. (The ultimate in this is having the control of the list placed in the hands of IANA with a revision policy of Expert Review so that nothing needs re-issuing). I started to say that I am not familiar enough with the likely evolution of ..... and then saw that I can see no reference for QAM to follow that line of thought. I think you need a reference for QAM. I would also include QAM in the list of abbreviations, perhaps with BPSK. Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Ahlberg" <jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com> To: "t.petch" <ietfc@btconnect.com>; <ccamp@ietf.org> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 8:02 AM Subject: RE: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt Hi Tom, I tried to address your comments in time to make a new submission before the cut-off time today. Maybe I was too quick, but I expect that we will get more comments after our presentation/discussion at IETF101 and we plan for a new submission after that. Then we will include your comments as well. Once again, thanks for your effort to review our draft. Regards JonasA -----Original Message----- From: t.petch [mailto:ietfc@btconnect.com] Sent: den 3 mars 2018 14:07 To: Jonas Ahlberg <jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com>; ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt Jonas That was quick. You have addressed almost all my comments (I was expecting more time to have another read - I am sure I had some typos which I have not found on a further read!) I still see ID-draft editors: in the contact clause which is true right now but which should become Editors: at some point. You have added a note the the RFC Editor for most but not quite all the uses of XXXX - the ones that might be added are in the IANA Requirements. (There are so many XXXX these days that some editors just put a blanket statement at the top rather than trying to flag each one). Requirements Language These days usually includes a reference to [RFC8174] - see for example draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7223bis Finally, the decimal point is represented in places with a period and in places with a comma; USA versus Europe perhaps. I am ok with it and suspect that this is a deliberate choice on your part and is probably the right choice for the technical content but might raise some comment. . Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Ahlberg" <jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com> To: "t.petch" <ietfc@btconnect.com>; <ccamp@ietf.org> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 11:11 AM Hi Tom, Thank you very much for your review of the microwave yang draft. We hope that we have addressed your comments in the 04 revision of the draft uploaded today. Thanks again, JonasA A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04.txt has been successfully submitted by Jonas Ahlberg and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang Revision: 04 Title: A YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link Document date: 2018-03-03 Group: ccamp Pages: 46 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04 Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-04 Abstract: This document defines a YANG data model for control and management of the radio link interfaces, and their connectivity to packet (typically Ethernet) interfaces in a microwave/millimeter wave node. The data nodes for management of the interface protection functionality is broken out into a separate and generic YANG data model in order to make it available also for other interface types. -----Original Message----- From: t.petch [mailto:ietfc@btconnect.com] Sent: den 1 mars 2018 12:06 To: Jonas Ahlberg <jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com>; ccamp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt Jonas Some administrative thoughts on the YANG in this I-D, most applying to both YANG modules. The contact list has i-d draft authors; suggest editors The description clause copyright statement is incomplete. The description clause lacks a statement as to which RFC this comes from. The revision should say 'Initial revision' Add an RFC editor note to replace the dates (plural) The case of xxxx varies; suggest making it XXXX and adding note to the RFC Editor to replace <all> occurrences thereof. Some in the YANG module might get missed (and some authors use xxxx to mean one thing and XXXX for something else:-). import ietf-interface-protection add a reference; in the RFC it may be obvious where this can be found but when the YANG module is extracted and on its own, there will be hundreds of potential RFC to choose from import iana-if-type Again I would add a reference - I know, it is well known but I am fan of stating the obvious in a technical document import ietf-yang-types ditto You reference rfc7223bis Suggest adding a note to the RFC Editor to replace this with the number assigned to that when it becomes an RFC; the RFC Editor has asked for such a note. ETSI References need more work. The YANG module has references to ETSI TR 102 311 ETSI EN 302 217-1 ETSI EN 301 129 all of which should appear in the Normative References of the I-D and none of which do; and they then need to appear in the text part of the I-D lest they are flagged as unused references You do have EN 302 217-2 [EN302217-2] but that is a different version:-) And there is a general problem; the reference clause uses ETSI EN 302 217-1 whereas the existing Reference for EN302217-2 drops the ETSI and drops the spaces; obviously the same? May be. So I think you should include a paragraph, or table, perhaps as Section 4.1 saying something like " This module imports typedefs from [RFC6991] and [RFC7223bis], .... and it references ETSI TR 102 311 [TR102311] ETSI EN 302 217-1 [EN302217-1] ETSI EN 301 129 [EN301129] " which is the sort of thing that draft-ietf-netmod-rfc7277bis does. reference "ITU-T G.826"; reference "ITU-T Rec. G.808.1"; ditto (and perhaps making the style the same, with or without Rec., even spelling it out ) Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Ahlberg" <jonas.ahlberg@ericsson.com> To: <ccamp@ietf.org> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 1:35 PM > Dear CCAMPers, > > The draft of the YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link has now been updated. > The structure, format and content of the document have been changed to adhere to "Guidelines for Authors and Reviewers of YANG Data Model Documents", draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6087bis-15. > A few editorial changes of the actual yang models have also been done, but the structure and content remains however the same. > > In all, the authors believe the draft addresses all the comments and would like to ask for WG LC. > > BR, > JonasA (on behalf of the co-authors) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org > Sent: den 26 februari 2018 14:23 > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Cc: ccamp@ietf.org > Subject: [CCAMP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG of the IETF. > > Title : A YANG Data Model for Microwave Radio Link > Authors : Jonas Ahlberg > Ye Min > Xi Li > Daniela Spreafico > Marko Vaupotic > Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03.txt > Pages : 44 > Date : 2018-02-26 > > Abstract: > This document defines a YANG data model for control and management > of the radio link interfaces, and their connectivity to packet > (typically Ethernet) interfaces in a microwave/millimeter wave node. > The data nodes for management of the interface protection > functionality is broken out into a separate and generic YANG data > model in order to make it available also for other interface types. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-03 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp
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- [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-yang-… Jonas Ahlberg
- Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-y… t.petch
- Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-y… Jonas Ahlberg
- Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-y… t.petch
- Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-y… Jonas Ahlberg
- Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-y… t.petch
- Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-y… Jonas Ahlberg
- Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-y… t.petch
- Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-y… Daniele Ceccarelli
- Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-y… Yemin (Amy)
- Re: [CCAMP] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-ccamp-mw-y… Daniele Ceccarelli