[CCAMP] WG Last Call comments on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-04
Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Fri, 19 October 2012 23:06 UTC
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Subject: [CCAMP] WG Last Call comments on draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-04
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Authors, I have the following LC comments: General comments: - There's a lot of text/concepts that is common to both this document and the framework document. The document certainly adds additional useful detail, but I'm not sure it's really provides an information model of any kind. Optimally, I think this document should be merged with the framework document. I think this would yield a more comprehensive and understandable result. I really don't see this as a lot of work/time, although it clearly would be a major change. If this is considered to be to onerous a proposal, then this document should at least be updated to (a) reduce duplication text with the framework document and (b) remove any references to "model" and just talk about providing "Additional Information" - The document should be reviewed by the authors to ensure it is consistent with the latest solutions documents and WG discussions. For example, there are multiple references to the contentious and much discussed "penultimate hop" case without any references to the agreed upon approach. Editorial comments: - Please verify that abbreviations are defined before being used . There are a number of these. - Please use a consistent decimal representation (sometimes commas are used other times periods) - the references [G709-v1] and [G709-v3] each actually refer to multiple documents, each documented needs to have it's own (correct) reference, i.g., [G709-v1] and [G709-v1a1]. The document text will need to be revisited to ensure the proper reference is made. - http://tools.ietf.org/idnits?url=http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-04.txt shows there are unresolved nits that need to resolved . I'm using line numbers from this url in my subsequent comments. Line 18: Suggest dropping "The recent revision of" Line 20/21: Suggest dropping the marketing phrase "enabling optimized support for an increasingly abundant service mix." Lines 93-127 (through "of"): I don't see how this text provides any value. I suggest dropping it, or at most just reference the FWK document. Lines 319-341: Instances of "G.709" should be "[G.709-V3]" Line 538: Add "(Source: Table 7-10 [G.709-V3])" Lines 579/80: Does "foundation G.709" mean "[G.709-V1]" If not what does it mean? Line 591: Replace/add "[RFC4203]" after "OSPF-TE" Lines 617-620: While one could certainly implement 4202/3 this way, it certainly is not required. I think these lines should be dropped. Lines 626-630: These sentences are simply wrong. What would be correct is to say something like: "Per [RFC2328], OSPF messages are directly encapsulated in IP datagrams and depend on IP fragmentation when transmitting packets larger than the network MTU. [RFC2328] recommends that "IP fragmentation should be avoided whenever possible." This recommendation further constraints solutions as OSPF does not support any generic mechanism to fragment OSPF LSAs." Line 632, probably should add a reference to [RFC4201]. Lines 733, 735, 764: figure numbers are wrong "6"->"9", "7"->"10" Lines 734/5: "are supposed to" --> "only" Line 735: "The figure 6 addresses" --> "Figure 9 represents" Line 738: Assuming I understand your intent, replace "Being D a single stage capable node" --> "As node D is a single stage capable node" Section 5, needs to be updated to reference existing relevant signaling and routing GMPLS RFCs and identify any additional information that is being conveyed and additional risks, if any. That's it on this document. Lou On 10/8/2012 4:47 PM, Lou Berger wrote: > This mail begins a two week working group last call on: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-g709-framework-09 > (Informational) > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-otn-g709-info-model-04 > (Informational) > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3-03 > (Standards Track) > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-signaling-g709v3-04 > (Standards Track) > > This working group last call ends on October 22. Comments should be > sent to the CCAMP mailing list. Please remember to include the > technical basis for any comments. > > Please note that we're still missing a few IPR statements, and look > for these to come in during the LC period. Any forthcoming publication > request will be delayed by late IPR statements/disclosures. > > Thank you, > Lou (and Deborah) > _______________________________________________ > CCAMP mailing list > CCAMP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ccamp > > > >
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