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Hi Deborah, Lyndon, et al.,

=20

You mention:

>> -- G.7715, G.7715.1 and the IETF eval and solutions draft all
identify a need to support hierarchical

>> routing areas for ASON, I am perplexed as to why this seems to be
viewed as a new feature.=20

> db> "significant" was not based on "newness" as a feature, it was
based on what GMPLS OSPF can

> support today.

=20

I'd like to point out that carrying Opaque LSAs is not a new extension
to OSPF.  What is new here is the import/export of GMPLS information
between areas.  Again, this can be done (and has been done by current
implementations) without any change to OSPF.  Again, I'd say that this
is not significant.

=20

Regards,

=20

Jonathan Sadler

=20

________________________________

From: Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS [mailto:dbrungard@att.com]=20
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 4:22 PM
To: Ong, Lyndon; Sadler, Jonathan B.; ccamp@ops.ietf.org
Cc: Adrian Farrel
Subject: RE: Proposed response to OIF on OSPF ENNI

=20

below (noted as db>)...

=20

Lyndon, do you think the OIF document and CCAMP's ASON Requirements and
Evaluation document are aligned?

=20

Thanks,

Deborah

=20

________________________________

From: Ong, Lyndon [mailto:Lyong@Ciena.com]=20
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 3:33 PM
To: Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS; Sadler, Jonathan B.; ccamp@ops.ietf.org
Cc: Adrian Farrel
Subject: RE: Proposed response to OIF on OSPF ENNI

Hi Deborah,

=20

Here's what I would say is in and not in the OIF document:

=20

-- G.7715, G.7715.1 and the IETF eval and solutions draft all identify a
need to support hierarchical

routing areas for ASON, I am perplexed as to why this seems to be viewed
as a new feature.=20

db> "significant" was not based on "newness" as a feature, it was based
on what GMPLS OSPF can support today.

=20

-- the document does not specify the domain of usage and leaves this to
the carrier.  This is no different

from G.7715.1 and IETF drafts that do not explicitly state whether they
are used for intra- or inter-domain

interfaces.

db> G.7715.1 is on requirements for link state protocols - it does not
define requirements for inter-carrier ENNI routing protocols. And, I
differ with your view on IETF documents, IETF documents do specify. And
this OIF document also specifies - Figure 1 shows it for use between
Carriers. The document may "leave it to the carrier", but OIF claims it
can do. I would presuppose an Implementation Agreement would properly
scope the solution. Inter-carrier was not included in the ASON-GMPLS
routing requirements. Do you think the same solution can be used
inter-carrier?

=20

-- GMPLS OSPF does not support a 1:N or N:1 relationship between routing
controller and transport

node, hence extensions are felt to be required - and are proposed in the
eval solutions draft. The=20

conclusions are no different.

db> GMPLS-ASON did not identify the need to advertise and use in the ERO
a transport plane name (OIF/section 4.2) - unless OIF-speak for a TE
Router is "transport plane name". The only GMPLS-ASON identified need
was if non-unique link IDs (e.g. unnumbered) were supported, an optional
TLV was identified which could be used. Note, GMPLS links are not
representing "data plane" (RFC4394 provides a good mapping of
terminology). And, this was not based on the issue which OIF identified
in section 4.2, "identifier namespaces are merged together" in GMPLS.

=20

-- the document does not in fact define any standard extensions to the
protocols, and points to future work

in IETF and ITU to provide these.  Therefore I cannot understand where
you say "new extensions to

OSPF are specified" and "none...align with the CCAMP's GMPLS-ASON work".


db> None of the identified "issues for extensions" aligns, and none of
the DDRP protocol elements listed in the Appendix and used for prototype
testing align. If the identified issues do not align, how will IETF
provide extensions? ITU future work?

=20

I think we're experiencing a significant miscommunication...

db> Agree;-)

=20

Cheers,

=20

Lyndon

=20

________________________________

From: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org] On
Behalf Of Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:15 PM
To: Sadler, Jonathan B.; ccamp@ops.ietf.org
Cc: Adrian Farrel
Subject: RE: Proposed response to OIF on OSPF ENNI

Hi Jonathan, (and Lyndon),

=20

Thanks to both of you for responding.

=20

"Significant" was referencing:

=20

- supports a (new) hierarchical OSPF model

- supports inter-domain (inter-carrier) OSPF (not supported by today's
OSPF)

- identifies namespace issues with GMPLS OSPF which do not exist, and
proposes extensions to "fix"

- new extensions to OSPF are specified

- none of the proposed extensions align with CCAMP's GMPLS-ASON work

=20

Did you have another adjective to suggest? We were thinking
"significant" was rather soft considering the above. Though if it's just
ITU-speak differences, why does the OIF liaison state it reflects
several years of work including testing? Any insight (alignment mapping
to CCAMP's work) which you or Lyndon can provide would be helpful. The
divergence is baffling to us.

=20

Deborah

=20

=20

________________________________

From: Sadler, Jonathan B. [mailto:Jonathan.Sadler@tellabs.com]=20
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 11:34 AM
To: Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS; ccamp@ops.ietf.org
Cc: Adrian Farrel
Subject: RE: Proposed response to OIF on OSPF ENNI

Hi Deborah and Adrian,

=20

I haven't seen much discussion of the OIF E-NNI Routing document on the
CCAMP list.  Can you tell me what parts of the document are "significant
modifications to the operation of OSPF"?

=20

Thanks,

=20

Jonathan Sadler

=20

________________________________

From: owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org] On
Behalf Of Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 9:38 AM
To: ccamp@ops.ietf.org
Cc: Adrian Farrel
Subject: Proposed response to OIF on OSPF ENNI

=20

Hi,

=20

We had a communication from OIF on their OSPF ENNI specification. You
can see the original files on http://www.olddog.co.uk/ccamp.htm
<http://www.olddog.co.uk/ccamp.htm> . Having assembled comments from
several people and our discussions in Montreal, we have put together the
following response.

=20

Please comment on the list in the next week.

=20

Thanks,

Adrian and Deborah

=20

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Dear Jim,

=20

We thank you for sending us the OIF ENNI document in response to our
request. While we appreciate the document being provided for
information, it is concerning that this document has not been previously
shared with CCAMP or the OSPF WG considering the document contains
significant modifications to the operation of OSPF and reflects OIF work
over the last several years. CCAMP has been working on GMPLS ASON for
several years and our Design Teams include OIF participants. Even though
a reply was not requested, we are replying, as we strongly recommend
that the document not be published for public information in its current
form.

=20

Of most concern to CCAMP is that it is not aligned with RFC 4258
(Requirements for Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS)
Routing for the Automatically Switched Optical Network (ASON)) or the
to-be-published:
ftp://ftp.isi.edu/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing-ev
al-03.txt. Considering notable OIF participants are authors of both
these IETF documents (and the same participants are contributors and the
Editor for the OIF document), the non-alignment is perplexing.
Considering the IETF document is ready for publication, we suggest in
the interests of time, that you align your document with the IETF
document. If any questions on the interpretation of the IETF's work, we
recommend that you either utilize the CCAMP mail exploder or send a
communication.

=20

Specific comments include:

1=2E      What is the intent of this document? Will it be published as an
Implementation Agreement (IA)?
The title indicates it will be an Implementation Agreement on GMPLS OSPF
extensions, but the main body of the document is a list of issues with
GMPLS OSPF. Further, your communication to us stated the document was
requirements on and use of OSPF-TE at the ENNI. These three views seem
to be inconsistent.

2=2E      The list of changes from the previous version (listed under the
Table of Contents) includes "removed "intra-carrier" limitation" and the
inclusion of Figure 1 showing the OSPF ENNI for use between vendor
domains and between carrier domains. GMPLS OSPF-TE already supports
inter-vendor operations.=20
The IETF's GMPLS ASON routing focus has been on the use of a link-state
based protocol to support a hierarchical routing architecture (G.7715.1)
within a carrier's domain. Requirements for using a link state protocol
as an inter-domain protocol between carriers are significantly
different. We strongly disagree if you intend to publish this document
as an inter-carrier OSPF ENNI Implementation Agreement claiming
alignment with IETF RFCs without review (or agreement) by any of the
IETF Working Groups.

3=2E      Section 4.1/Table 1 and the statement under the table
identifying issues with GMPLS identifier namespaces are not correct.
GMPLS identifier namespaces do meet ASON requirements for namespace
separation of the transport plane and control plane (Section 5.2 and
5=2E3/Evaluation). Perhaps you are confusing OSPF and GMPLS OSPF? As you
also identified in your liaison that the key area needing review was the
support of independence of functional component to physical location,
this appears to be a key area of misunderstanding on GMPLS. We recommend
reviewing RFC3945 (GMPLS Architecture) to understand that the key
architecture difference between GMPLS and MPLS is the decoupling of the
transport plane and control plane. Additionally, RFC4394, RFC4397, and
RFC4258, provide a mapping to ITU terminology which may be helpful
reading.

=20

We request an additional round of communication of this document to the
IETF before approval to allow us to work with you to produce convergence
between OIF and IETF work which, we believe, will be in the best
interests of the industry.

=20

Best regards,

Adrian Farrel and Deborah Brungard,

CCAMP co-chairs

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Deborah, Lyndon, et al.,<o:p></o:p>=
</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You mention:<o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&gt;&gt; -- G.7715, G.7715.1 and the I=
ETF
eval and solutions draft all identify a need to support hierarchical<o:p></=
o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&gt;&gt; routing areas for ASON, I am
perplexed as to why this seems to be viewed as a new feature.&nbsp;</span><=
/font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&gt; db&gt; &quot;significant&quot; was
not based on &quot;newness&quot; as a feature, it was based on what GMPLS O=
SPF
can<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&gt; support today.</span></font><o:p>=
</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I&#8217;d like to point out that carry=
ing
Opaque LSAs is not a new extension to OSPF. &nbsp;What is new here is the
import/export of GMPLS information between areas. &nbsp;Again, this can be =
done
(and has been done by current implementations) without any change to OSPF.&=
nbsp;
Again, I&#8217;d say that this is not significant.<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
</p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-si=
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Deborah A, ALABS [mailto:dbrungard@att.com] <br>
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4:22
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Ong, Lyndon; Sadler, Jon=
athan
B=2E; ccamp@ops.ietf.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Adrian Farrel<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Proposed respon=
se to
OIF on OSPF ENNI</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>below (noted as db&gt;)...</span></fon=
t><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Lyndon, do you think the OIF document =
and
CCAMP's ASON Requirements and Evaluation document are aligned?</span></font=
><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thanks,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Deborah</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font siz=
e=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>

<hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabIndex=3D-1>

</span></font></div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=3D2 face=
=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span>=
</font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>=
 Ong,
Lyndon [mailto:Lyong@Ciena.com] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 24, 2006 =
3:33
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Brungard, Deborah A, ALA=
BS;
Sadler, Jonathan B.; ccamp@ops.ietf.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Adrian Farrel<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Proposed respon=
se to
OIF on OSPF ENNI</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Hi Deborah,</span></font><o:p></o:p></=
p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Here's what I would say&nbsp;is in and=
 not
in the OIF document:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>-- G.7715, G.7715.1 and the IETF eval =
and
solutions draft all identify a need to support hierarchical</span></font><o=
:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>routing areas for ASON, I am perplexed=
 as
to why this seems to be viewed as a new feature.&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></=
o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>db&gt; &quot;significant&quot; was not
based on &quot;newness&quot; as a feature, it was based on what GMPLS OSPF =
can support
today.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>-- the document does not specify the
domain of usage and leaves this to the carrier.&nbsp; This is no different<=
/span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>from G.7715.1 and IETF drafts that do =
not
explicitly state whether they are used for intra- or inter-domain</span></f=
ont><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>interfaces.</span></font><o:p></o:p></=
p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>db&gt; G.7715.1 is on requirements for
link state protocols - it does not define requirements for inter-carrier EN=
NI
routing protocols. And, I differ with your view on IETF documents, IETF
documents do specify. And this OIF document also specifies&nbsp;- Figure&nb=
sp;1
shows it for use between Carriers. The document may &quot;leave it to the
carrier&quot;, but OIF&nbsp;claims it can do. I would presuppose an
Implementation Agreement would properly scope the solution.
Inter-carrier&nbsp;was&nbsp;not included in the ASON-GMPLS routing
requirements. Do you think the same solution can be used inter-carrier?</sp=
an></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>-- GMPLS OSPF does not support a 1:N or
N:1 relationship between routing controller and transport</span></font><o:p=
></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>node, hence extensions are felt to be
required - and are proposed in the eval solutions draft. The </span></font>=
<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>conclusions are no different.</span></=
font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>db&gt; GMPLS-ASON did not identify the
need to advertise and use in the ERO a transport plane name (OIF/section 4.=
2) -
unless OIF-speak for a TE Router is &quot;transport plane name&quot;. The o=
nly
GMPLS-ASON identified need was&nbsp;<u>if</u> non-unique link IDs (e.g.
unnumbered) were supported, an <u>optional</u> TLV was identified which cou=
ld
be used. Note, GMPLS links are not representing&nbsp;&quot;data plane&quot;
(RFC4394 provides a good mapping of terminology).&nbsp;And, this was not ba=
sed
on the issue which OIF identified in section 4.2, &quot;identifier namespac=
es
are merged together&quot; in GMPLS.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>-- the document does not in fact define
any standard extensions to the protocols, and points to future work</span><=
/font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>in IETF and ITU to provide these.&nbsp;
Therefore I cannot understand where you say &quot;new extensions to</span><=
/font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>OSPF are specified&quot; and
&quot;none...align with the CCAMP's GMPLS-ASON work&quot;.&nbsp; </span></f=
ont><o:p></o:p></p>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>db&gt; None of the identified &quot;is=
sues
for extensions&quot; aligns, and none of the DDRP protocol elements listed =
in
the Appendix and used for prototype testing align. If the identified issues=
 do
not align, how will IETF provide extensions? ITU future work?</span></font>=
<o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I think we're experiencing a significa=
nt
miscommunication...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>db&gt; Agree;-)</span></font><o:p></o:=
p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Cheers,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Lyndon</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font siz=
e=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>

<hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabIndex=3D-1>

</span></font></div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=3D2 face=
=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span>=
</font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Brungard, Deborah A, ALA=
BS<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 24, 2006 =
12:15
PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Sadler, Jonathan B.;
ccamp@ops.ietf.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Adrian Farrel<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Proposed respon=
se to
OIF on OSPF ENNI</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Hi Jonathan, (and Lyndon),</span></fon=
t><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thanks to both of you for responding.<=
/span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&quot;Significant&quot; was referencin=
g:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- supports&nbsp;a&nbsp;(new) hierarchi=
cal
OSPF model</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>-&nbsp;supports&nbsp;inter-domain
(inter-carrier) OSPF (not supported by today's OSPF)</span></font><o:p></o:=
p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- identifies namespace issues with GMP=
LS
OSPF which do not exist, and proposes extensions to &quot;fix&quot;</span><=
/font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- new extensions to OSPF are specified=
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>- none of the proposed extensions align
with CCAMP's GMPLS-ASON work</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Did you have another adjective to sugg=
est?
We&nbsp;were thinking&nbsp;&quot;significant&quot; was rather soft consider=
ing
the above. Though if it's just ITU-speak differences, why does the OIF liai=
son
state it reflects several years of work including testing? Any insight
(alignment mapping to CCAMP's work) which you or Lyndon can provide would be
helpful.&nbsp;The divergence is&nbsp;baffling to us.</span></font><o:p></o:=
p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Deborah</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><font siz=
e=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>

<hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter tabIndex=3D-1>

</span></font></div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=3D2 face=
=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span>=
</font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>=
 Sadler, Jonathan
B=2E [mailto:Jonathan.Sadler@tellabs.com] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 21, 2006 =
11:34
AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Brungard, Deborah A, ALA=
BS;
ccamp@ops.ietf.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Adrian Farrel<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Proposed respon=
se to
OIF on OSPF ENNI</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Deborah and Adrian,<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I haven&#8217;t seen much discussion of
the OIF E-NNI Routing document on the CCAMP list. &nbsp;Can you tell me what
parts of the document are &#8220;significant modifications to the operation=
 of
OSPF&#8221;?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy
 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'=
>Jonathan
 Sadler</span></font></st1:PersonName><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DAr=
ial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span><=
/font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<div>

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e=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>

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</span></font></div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org [mailto:owner-ccamp@ops.ietf.org] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Brungard, Deborah A, ALA=
BS<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 21, 2006 =
9:38
AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ccamp@ops.ietf.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Adrian Farrel<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Proposed response t=
o OIF
on OSPF ENNI</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

</div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Hi,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>We had a communication from OIF on the=
ir
OSPF ENNI specification. You can see the original files on </span></font><a
href=3D"http://www.olddog.co.uk/ccamp.htm"><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>http://www.olddog.co.uk/ccamp.=
htm</span></font></a><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:Arial;
color:blue'>. Having assembled comments from several people and our discuss=
ions
in <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City w:st=3D"on">Montreal</st1:City></st1:pl=
ace>, we
have put together the following response.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Please comment on the list in the next
week.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thanks,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Adrian and Deborah</span></font><o:p><=
/o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>Dear Jim,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>We thank you for sending us the OIF ENNI document in response to our
request. While we appreciate the document being provided for information, i=
t is
concerning that this document has not been previously shared with CCAMP or =
the
OSPF WG considering the document contains significant modifications to the
operation of OSPF and reflects OIF work over the last several years. CCAMP =
has
been working on GMPLS ASON for several years and our Design Teams include O=
IF
participants. Even though a reply was not requested, we are replying, as we
strongly recommend that the document not be published for public informatio=
n in
its current form.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>Of most concern to CCAMP is that it is not aligned with RFC 4258
(Requirements for Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Routing
for the Automatically Switched Optical Network (ASON)) or the to-be-publish=
ed: <a
href=3D"ftp://ftp.isi.edu/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routi=
ng-eval-03.txt">ftp://ftp.isi.edu/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-as=
on-routing-eval-03.txt</a>.
Considering notable OIF participants are authors of both these IETF documen=
ts
(and the same participants are contributors and the Editor for the OIF
document), the non-alignment is perplexing. Considering the IETF document is
ready for publication, we suggest in the interests of time, that you align =
your
document with the IETF document. If any questions on the interpretation of =
the
IETF&#8217;s work, we recommend that you either utilize the CCAMP mail expl=
oder
or send a communication.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>Specific comments include:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in'><font s=
ize=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>1.</span></font><=
font
size=3D1><span style=3D'font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </s=
pan></font>What
is the intent of this document? Will it be published as an Implementation
Agreement (IA)?<br>
The title indicates it will be an Implementation Agreement on GMPLS OSPF
extensions, but the main body of the document is a list of issues with GMPLS
OSPF. Further, your communication to us stated the document was requirement=
s on
and use of OSPF-TE at the ENNI. These three views seem to be inconsistent.<=
o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in'><i><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-styl=
e:italic'>2.</span></font></i><i><font
size=3D1><span style=3D'font-size:7.0pt;font-style:italic'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></i>The list of changes from the previous version (listed und=
er
the Table of Contents) includes &#8220;<i><span style=3D'font-style:italic'=
>removed
&#8220;intra-carrier&#8221; limitation</span></i>&#8221; and the inclusion =
of
Figure 1 showing the OSPF ENNI for use between vendor domains and between
carrier domains. GMPLS OSPF-TE already supports inter-vendor operations. <b=
r>
The IETF&#8217;s GMPLS ASON routing focus has been on the use of a link-sta=
te
based protocol to support a hierarchical routing architecture (G.7715.1) wi=
thin
a carrier&#8217;s domain. Requirements for using a link state protocol as an
inter-domain protocol between carriers are significantly different. We stro=
ngly
disagree if you intend to publish this document as an inter-carrier OSPF EN=
NI
Implementation Agreement claiming alignment with IETF RFCs without review (=
or
agreement) by any of the IETF Working Groups.<i><span style=3D'font-style:i=
talic'><o:p></o:p></span></i></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.25in;text-indent:-.25in'><font s=
ize=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>3.</span></font><=
font
size=3D1><span style=3D'font-size:7.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </s=
pan></font>Section
4=2E1/Table 1 and the statement under the table identifying issues with GMP=
LS
identifier namespaces are not correct. GMPLS identifier namespaces do meet =
ASON
requirements for namespace separation of the transport plane and control pl=
ane
(Section 5.2 and 5.3/Evaluation). Perhaps you are confusing OSPF and GMPLS
OSPF? As you also identified in your liaison that the key area needing revi=
ew
was the support of independence of functional component to physical locatio=
n,
this appears to be a key area of misunderstanding on GMPLS. We recommend
reviewing RFC3945 (GMPLS Architecture) to understand that the key architect=
ure
difference between GMPLS and MPLS is the decoupling of the transport plane =
and
control plane. Additionally, RFC4394, RFC4397, and RFC4258, provide a mappi=
ng
to ITU terminology which may be helpful reading.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>We request an additional round of communication of this document to=
 the
IETF before approval to allow us to work with you to produce convergence be=
tween
OIF and IETF work which, we believe, will be in the best interests of the
industry.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D3 face=3D"Tim=
es New Roman"><span
 style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Adrian Farrel</span></font></st1:PersonName> and
Deborah Brungard,<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>CCAMP co-chairs<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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