[CCAMP]Re: ACTN POI drafts

"Daniele Ceccarelli (dceccare)" <dceccare@cisco.com> Mon, 09 September 2024 15:02 UTC

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From: "Daniele Ceccarelli (dceccare)" <dceccare@cisco.com>
To: "adrian@olddog.co.uk" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>, 'CCAMP' <ccamp@ietf.org>
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Hi Adrian,

Thanks for raising this. I thought it was stated before but either too much time has passed or I wasn't clear enough in my announcement (apologies for that).

All the drafts coming before:

- draft-poidt-ccamp-actn-poi-pluggable-usecases-gaps-01<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-poidt-ccamp-actn-poi-pluggable-usecases-gaps/> (operators driven use cases and gap analysis)
- draft-rokui-ccamp-actn-wdm-pluggable-modelling-00<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rokui-ccamp-actn-wdm-pluggable-modelling/> (vendors driven modelling)

Are either dead or parked waiting for these two documents to proceed, including draft-poidt-ccamp-actn-poi-pluggable and draft-poidt-ccamp-actn-poi-pluggable-usecases).

I see Oscar realized he answered the wrong polling and fixed it. Once the IPR polling is completed we'll run the WG adoption of draft-poidt-ccamp-actn-poi-pluggable-usecases-gaps-01<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-poidt-ccamp-actn-poi-pluggable-usecases-gaps/>

Thanks
Daniele


From: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2024 4:38 PM
To: 'CCAMP' <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: [CCAMP]ACTN POI drafts

Picking on Oscar's email to reply to, but this is a wider question...

I see:

  1.  draft-poidt-ccamp-actn-poi-pluggable
-02 IPR poll was in August 202*3*
-03 Expired August 2024
  2.  draft-poidt-ccamp-actn-poi-pluggable-usecases
-00 Expired June 2024
  3.  draft-poidt-ccamp-actn-poi-pluggable-usecases-gaps
-01 IPR poll started in August 2024
Responses seen from:
- Italo
- Aihua
- Deborah
- Gabriele
- Gyan
- JF
- Julien
- Daniele
- Sergio
Missing:
- Oscar (presuming this thread was meant to be for this document)
- Stefan
- Ori
- Brent
- Aihua
- Edward
- Reza
- Nigel

FWIW, my reading of Nigel's email from October 2023 is that it is possible that draft-poidt-ccamp-actn-poi-pluggable-usecases-gaps is "a third overarching framework draft that covers requirements and brings the two existing drafts together".

Questions.

  1.  Which of these documents is dead?
  2.  Could the authors of the not dead (undead?) documents please ask the Secretariat to set up "replaced by" information for the dead docs pointing to the new doc(s)?
  3.  Did Oscar intend to reply about IPR on draft-poidt-ccamp-actn-poi-pluggable-usecases-gaps?

Thanks,
Adrian

From: OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS <oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com<mailto:oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com>>
Sent: 09 September 2024 13:47
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Subject: [CCAMP]Re: IPR polling - draft-poidt-ccamp-actn-poi-pluggable-02

Hi Daniele, CCAMP WG,

              No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.

              Best Regards,

                             Oscar


From: daniele.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:daniele.ietf@gmail.com> <daniele.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:daniele.ietf@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 6:55 PM
To: 'Gabriele Galimberti' <ggalimbe56@gmail.com<mailto:ggalimbe56@gmail.com>>; 'Daniele Ceccarelli' <daniele.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:daniele.ietf@gmail.com>>; Brent Foster (brfoster) <brfoster@cisco.com<mailto:brfoster@cisco.com>>; BOUQUIER, JEAN-FRANCOIS, Vodafone Spain <jeff.bouquier@vodafone.com<mailto:jeff.bouquier@vodafone.com>>; Ori Gerstel (ogerstel) <ogerstel@cisco.com<mailto:ogerstel@cisco.com>>; Oscar González de Dios <oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com<mailto:oscar.gonzalezdedios@telefonica.com>>; 'Sergio Belotti (Nokia)' <sergio.belotti@nokia.com<mailto:sergio.belotti@nokia.com>>; Phil Bedard (phbedard) <phbedard@cisco.com<mailto:phbedard@cisco.com>>; Rana El Desouky Kazamel (reldesou) <reldesou@cisco.com<mailto:reldesou@cisco.com>>; ggrammel@juniper.net<mailto:ggrammel@juniper.net>; Prasenjit Manna (prmanna) <prmanna@cisco.com<mailto:prmanna@cisco.com>>; 'JOSE ANGEL PEREZ, Vodafone' <jose-angel.perez@vodafone.com<mailto:jose-angel.perez@vodafone.com>>; MANUEL JULIAN LOPEZ, Vodafone <manuel-julian.lopez@vodafone.com<mailto:manuel-julian.lopez@vodafone.com>>
Cc: ccamp@ietf.org<mailto:ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: IPR polling - draft-poidt-ccamp-actn-poi-pluggable-02

Authors, Contributors, CCAMP,

This is the IPR polling in preparation for the WG adoption of draft-poidt-ccamp-actn-poi-pluggable-02
Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft identified above?
Please state either:

"No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft"

or

"Yes, I'm aware of IPR that applies to this draft"

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)?
If yes to the above, please state either:

"Yes, the IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules"

or

"No, the IPR has not been disclosed"

If you answer no, please provide any additional details you think appropriate. If you are listed as a document author or contributor please answer the above by responding to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR.

NOTE: THIS APPLIES TO ALL OF YOU LISTED IN THIS MESSAGE'S TO LINES.

Thanks
Daniele

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