Re: [CCAMP] OVRLY - signaling extensions

"Adrian Farrel" <> Mon, 17 March 2014 12:19 UTC

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> We need to look ahead and use the best for the future   … and We'll DO that !
> But, I'd also say, let me keep my bended solution already working in field.

I am pretty sure that no-one is disagreeing with this.

One group of people is busy bending things and documenting them, while the other group looks on and says "Urgh! Do you really need to do that?"

The second group is also happily dreaming of the golden future, while the first group says "But you are excluding what is in the field!"

So long as we recognise the difference between pragmatics and idealism we will get both set of documents published.

For my part, I hope that stuff is only being "added to the UNI" when it is really needed, and not because "hey, we could also add a widget" which has been a lamentable flaw with IETF work in recent years.

I also hope that the dreamscape can remain free of a discussion of what we are building for pragmatics, and can concentrate on "how things ought to be" or at least "how things would have been had we started with a green field".