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Hi working group,

The polling is now closed, thanks a lot everyone for taking the time to rev=
iew the draft during the IETF busiest weeks.

Authors, please address the issues raised by Italo on the mailing list as W=
G last call comments and then we'll proceed with the publication request.

Thanks
Daniele

From: Daniele Ceccarelli (dceccare) <dceccare=3D40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2024 2:01 PM
To: ccamp@ietf.org
Subject: [CCAMP]WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-rfc9093-bis-11

Hi CCAMP,

-- IMPORTANT PREAMBLE--
We have two drafts which have a very good level of maturity, namely RFC9093=
bis and Optical Impairment aware topology.
The more we work on them and the more disparate use cases pop up. We reques=
ted the authors to have the drafts in a status that is "good enough" to add=
ress the vast majority of use cases supported by the industry today so that=
 we can progresse the drafts to the next stage and not hold them potentiall=
y for ever.

With the actual version of the drafts we should be able to cover all of the=
 use cases with only the following limitations:


  *   Homogenous muxponders: with the present version of the draft we are n=
ot able to support use cases of interoperability between muxponder of diffe=
rent versions, and we can use regenerator always at the lowest level (OTU) =
since we do not have client information when setting up a tunnel. This info=
rmation is missing today.
  *   Client mapping compatibility: at the moment we can support optical co=
mpatibility with operational model, but we don't support client compatibili=
ty.

These use cases and others that might come to your mind, if really needed, =
can be handled by an update to the RFCs at later stages.
- END PREAMBLE --

That said, this starts a 3 weeks working group last call on draft-ietf-ccam=
p-rfc9093-bis-11.

The last call will last 3 weeks to provide more time for reviewing, given w=
e're approaching IETF 121 meeting. It will end on Tuesday November 12th . P=
lease indicate your support or concern to the mailing list. Review comments=
 and nits are also welcome.
All the IPR declarations from authors and contributors have been collected =
and can be found in the CCAMP WIKI page: https://wiki.ietf.org/en/group/cca=
mp

If anyone is willing to be the shepherd for this draft, please feel free to=
 volunteer (authors excluded).

Thanks
Daniele, Fatai, Luis


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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi working group,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The polling is now closed, thanks a lot everyone for=
 taking the time to review the draft during the IETF busiest weeks.<o:p></o=
:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Authors, please address the issues raised by Italo o=
n the mailing list as WG last call comments and then we&#8217;ll proceed wi=
th the publication request.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Daniele&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif;mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none"> Daniele Ceccarelli (dcecca=
re) &lt;dceccare=3D40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org&gt;
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 22, 2024 2:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ccamp@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CCAMP]WG last call on draft-ietf-ccamp-rfc9093-bis-11<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi CCAMP, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">-- IMPORTANT PREAMBLE--<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We have two drafts which have a very good level of m=
aturity, namely RFC9093bis and Optical Impairment aware topology.<o:p></o:p=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The more we work on them and the more disparate use =
cases pop up. We requested the authors to have the drafts in a status that =
is &#8220;good enough&#8221; to address the vast majority of use cases supp=
orted by the industry today so that we can progresse
 the drafts to the next stage and not hold them potentially for ever.<o:p><=
/o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">With the actual version of the drafts we should be a=
ble to cover all of the use cases with only the following limitations:<o:p>=
</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<ul style=3D"margin-top:0in" type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 =
lfo3">Homogenous muxponders: with the present version of the draft we are n=
ot able to support use cases of interoperability between muxponder of diffe=
rent versions, and we can use regenerator
 always at the lowest level (OTU) since we do not have client information w=
hen setting up a tunnel. This information is missing today.<o:p></o:p></li>=
<li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0in;mso-list:l1 level1 =
lfo3">Client mapping compatibility: at the moment we can support optical co=
mpatibility with operational model, but we don&#8217;t support client compa=
tibility.<o:p></o:p></li></ul>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">These use cases and others that might come to your m=
ind, if really needed, can be handled by an update to the RFCs at later sta=
ges.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">- END PREAMBLE --<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">That said, this starts a 3 weeks working group last =
call on draft-ietf-ccamp-rfc9093-bis-11.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The last call will last 3 weeks to provide more time=
 for reviewing, given we&#8217;re approaching IETF 121 meeting. It will end=
 on Tuesday November 12<sup>th</sup> . Please indicate your support or conc=
ern to the mailing list. Review comments
 and nits are also welcome.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">All the IPR declarations from authors and contributo=
rs have been collected and can be found in the CCAMP WIKI page:
<a href=3D"https://wiki.ietf.org/en/group/ccamp">https://wiki.ietf.org/en/g=
roup/ccamp</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If anyone is willing to be the shepherd for this dra=
ft, please feel free to volunteer (authors excluded).
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Daniele, Fatai, Luis<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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