Re: [CCAMP] Magnus Westerlund's Discuss on draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-bandwidth-availability-14: (with DISCUSS)

Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Thu, 11 April 2019 15:13 UTC

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From: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>
To: "Yemin (Amy)" <amy.yemin@huawei.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Hi,

Thanks for the response. From my perspective I think with the
clarification that the format is IEEE 754 the only thing I would ask is
to comment on the limitation of the field.

Cheers

Magnus

On 2019-04-11 17:03, Yemin (Amy) wrote:
> Hi Magnus, 
>
> Thanks for the comments, please see reply inline below. 
>
> BR,
> Amy
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> Section 3.1:
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>       Availability (4 octets): a 32-bit floating point number describes
>       the decimal value of availability requirement for this bandwidth
>       request. The value MUST be less than 1and is usually expressed in
>       the value of 0.99/0.999/0.9999/0.99999.
>
> It appears that this format has some very clear limitations when it comes to
> store availability numbers. Assuming that this 32-bit float is an IEEE-754
> representation which should be explicitly stated.
>
> In that case representing availabilities higher than 0.999999 starts to
> introduce significant errors in relation to intended precision. Intended value
> Error                                             Actual value 0.999999
>  -1.3278961181640625E-8              0.999998986721038818359375 0.9999999
>  -1.920928955078125E-8                0.99999988079071044921875 0.99999999
> 1E-8                                                   1 (Which is not allowed)
>
> So at a minimal the limitations for what is practical to express needs to be
> provided. Secondly, are this range sufficient in all cases?
> [Amy] The floating point number may not be the perfect unit. But since the OSPF extension RFC8330 use the floating-point number, we would like to continue using it. 
> Regarding the range, normally five 9s 0.99999 is highest value in telecom network, that's 5 minutes outage in a year.
> So floating point is capable to represent this range.
>
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