Re: [CCAMP] [netmod] draft-vallin-netmod-alarm-module status and plans

William Lupton <wlupton@broadband-forum.org> Tue, 27 June 2017 10:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [netmod] draft-vallin-netmod-alarm-module status and plans
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Deborah,

Sorry about this. I will work with Dave S as you recommend.

Thanks,
William

> On 26 Jun 2017, at 12:00, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A <db3546@att.com> wrote:
> 
> As Daniele says, if the authors are interested to progress this draft, it should be submitted to ccamp.
> 
> There was an earlier comment in this thread by an individual, William Lupton, saying "We at the Broadband Forum (BBF) would like to reiterate our interest in the draft-vallin-netmod-alarm-module draft."
> 
> William, IETF has a liaison relationship with BBF. The appropriate channel to express another group's interest is via liaison or the liaison contact. I checked the liaisons and I don't see any liaison from BBF on this topic. The liaison contact is Dave Sinicrope (cc'd). Please work with him to provide communication on behalf of BBF to IETF.
> 
> It would be most helpful if BBF could provide requirements and use scenarios for their needs on this item.
> 
> Thanks,
> Deborah
> (Routing AD)
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Daniele Ceccarelli [mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com]
>> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 4:23 AM
>> To: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>; stefan vallin <stefan@wallan.se>; Vladimir
>> Vassilev <vladimir@transpacket.com>
>> Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org; netmod@ietf.org; BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
>> <db3546@att.com>
>> Subject: RE: [netmod] draft-vallin-netmod-alarm-module status and plans
>> 
>> Hi Vladimir,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> that single email doesn't reflect the consensus of the WG. The chairs and the
>> ADs agreed that CCAMP is the right place to progress the draft.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> BR
>> 
>> Daniele
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> 
>> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net]
>> 
>> Sent: sabato 24 giugno 2017 21:10
>> 
>> To: stefan vallin <stefan@wallan.se>; Vladimir Vassilev
>> <vladimir@transpacket.com>
>> 
>> Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org; netmod@ietf.org; Deborah Brungard
>> (dbrungard@att.com) <dbrungard@att.com>
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [netmod] draft-vallin-netmod-alarm-module status and plans
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My understanding is the same as Kent's. This document should be brought into
>> ccamp...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Lou
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On June 24, 2017 1:08:35 PM stefan vallin <stefan@wallan.se> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> +1
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> Mvh stefan
>> 
>>> +46(0)705233262
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>>> 23 juni 2017 kl. 19:14 skrev Vladimir Vassilev <vladimir@transpacket.com>:
>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>>>> Hi Kent,
>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>>>> I followed the CCAMP thread concluding with
>> 
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_mail-
>> 2Darchive_web_ccamp_current_msg18142.html&d=DwIGaQ&c=LFYZ-
>> o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=-
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>> 
>>>> IMO there is consensus that the draft should be move back to netmod.
>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>>>> Vladimir
>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> On 06/22/2017 03:02 PM, Kent Watsen wrote:
>> 
>>>>> Hi William,
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> Please be aware that this draft is moving to the CCAMP WG.  I don't
>> 
>>>>> think the ccamp-version of the draft has been posted yet, but it
>> 
>>>>> will be discussed in that WG (and not NETMOD) in Prague.
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>> 
>>>>> Kent
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 6:25 AM, William Lupton
>> 
>>>>>> <wlupton@broadband-forum.org>
>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>>> Dear all,
>> 
>>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>>> We at the Broadband Forum (BBF) would like to reiterate our
>> 
>>>>>> interest in the draft-vallin-netmod-alarm-module draft.
>> 
>>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>>> We will also have some technical comments / suggestions (internal
>> 
>>>>>> discussion is ongoing) that we will share with NETMOD as soon as
>> possible.
>> 
>>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>> 
>>>>>> William
>> 
>>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>>>> On 31 May 2017, at 13:08, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>>>> William,
>> 
>>>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>>>> This was discussed with the authors, the NETMOD chairs, and the RTG
>> AD Deborah.
>> 
>>>>>>> The advice was for the authors to raise the draft in ccamp and try
>> 
>>>>>>> to progress it there.
>> 
>>>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>>>> The authors updated their draft to version 2 and pinged the CCAMP
>> 
>>>>>>> mailing list (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-
>> 3A__www.ietf.org_mail-
>> 2Darchive_web_ccamp_current_msg18124.html&d=DwIGaQ&c=LFYZ-
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>> 
>>>>>>> From that email thread, it seems there is interest in the work,
>> 
>>>>>>> but where to do the work is not clear.
>> 
>>>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>>>> My advice to the authors: continue progress this work and if CCAMP
>> 
>>>>>>> is not interested or consider this work too generic, bring it back
>> 
>>>>>>> to NETMOD and we'll follow normal WG process.
>> 
>>>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>>>> Regards, Benoit
>> 
>>>>>>>> All,
>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>>>>> I heard from Kent that
>> 
>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-
>> 3A__tools.ietf.org_html_draft-2Dvallin-2Dnetmod-2Dalarm-
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>> 
>>>>>>>> moving to CCAMP but I don’t see any mention of it at
>> 
>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-
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>>>>>>>> shown as a dependency at
>> 
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>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> 
>>>>>>>> William
>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>> 
>>>>>> netmod mailing list
>> 
>>>>>> netmod@ietf.org
>> 
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>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> netmod mailing list
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>>>>> netmod@ietf.org
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