Re: [CCAMP] [netmod] draft-vallin-netmod-alarm-module status and plans
William Lupton <wlupton@broadband-forum.org> Tue, 27 June 2017 10:31 UTC
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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] [netmod] draft-vallin-netmod-alarm-module status and plans
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Deborah, Sorry about this. I will work with Dave S as you recommend. Thanks, William > On 26 Jun 2017, at 12:00, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A <db3546@att.com> wrote: > > As Daniele says, if the authors are interested to progress this draft, it should be submitted to ccamp. > > There was an earlier comment in this thread by an individual, William Lupton, saying "We at the Broadband Forum (BBF) would like to reiterate our interest in the draft-vallin-netmod-alarm-module draft." > > William, IETF has a liaison relationship with BBF. The appropriate channel to express another group's interest is via liaison or the liaison contact. I checked the liaisons and I don't see any liaison from BBF on this topic. The liaison contact is Dave Sinicrope (cc'd). Please work with him to provide communication on behalf of BBF to IETF. > > It would be most helpful if BBF could provide requirements and use scenarios for their needs on this item. > > Thanks, > Deborah > (Routing AD) > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Daniele Ceccarelli [mailto:daniele.ceccarelli@ericsson.com] >> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 4:23 AM >> To: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>; stefan vallin <stefan@wallan.se>; Vladimir >> Vassilev <vladimir@transpacket.com> >> Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org; netmod@ietf.org; BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A >> <db3546@att.com> >> Subject: RE: [netmod] draft-vallin-netmod-alarm-module status and plans >> >> Hi Vladimir, >> >> >> >> that single email doesn't reflect the consensus of the WG. The chairs and the >> ADs agreed that CCAMP is the right place to progress the draft. >> >> >> >> BR >> >> Daniele >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Lou Berger [mailto:lberger@labn.net] >> >> Sent: sabato 24 giugno 2017 21:10 >> >> To: stefan vallin <stefan@wallan.se>; Vladimir Vassilev >> <vladimir@transpacket.com> >> >> Cc: ccamp-chairs@ietf.org; netmod@ietf.org; Deborah Brungard >> (dbrungard@att.com) <dbrungard@att.com> >> >> Subject: Re: [netmod] draft-vallin-netmod-alarm-module status and plans >> >> >> >> My understanding is the same as Kent's. This document should be brought into >> ccamp... >> >> >> >> Lou >> >> >> >> >> >> On June 24, 2017 1:08:35 PM stefan vallin <stefan@wallan.se> wrote: >> >> >> >>> +1 >> >>> >> >>> Mvh stefan >> >>> +46(0)705233262 >> >>> >> >>>> 23 juni 2017 kl. 19:14 skrev Vladimir Vassilev <vladimir@transpacket.com>: >> >>>> >> >>>> Hi Kent, >> >>>> >> >>>> I followed the CCAMP thread concluding with >> >>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_mail- >> 2Darchive_web_ccamp_current_msg18142.html&d=DwIGaQ&c=LFYZ- >> o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=- >> ufLqOntt6LejLMTbN3QpjYHxsObxmPKRhiF3FnmoI0&m=irspa6NcXPKDS42mjv_ >> C- >> 7NNeuoTFH_7mVAhII6sVtw&s=FBMD66P58vyohwk53lFfpIBNFx9uxGUmzN6H >> Wpz8gm0&e= and >> >>>> IMO there is consensus that the draft should be move back to netmod. >> >>>> >> >>>> Vladimir >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> On 06/22/2017 03:02 PM, Kent Watsen wrote: >> >>>>> Hi William, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Please be aware that this draft is moving to the CCAMP WG. I don't >> >>>>> think the ccamp-version of the draft has been posted yet, but it >> >>>>> will be discussed in that WG (and not NETMOD) in Prague. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Regards, >> >>>>> Kent >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 6:25 AM, William Lupton >> >>>>>> <wlupton@broadband-forum.org> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Dear all, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> We at the Broadband Forum (BBF) would like to reiterate our >> >>>>>> interest in the draft-vallin-netmod-alarm-module draft. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> We will also have some technical comments / suggestions (internal >> >>>>>> discussion is ongoing) that we will share with NETMOD as soon as >> possible. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Thanks, >> >>>>>> William >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On 31 May 2017, at 13:08, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> William, >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> This was discussed with the authors, the NETMOD chairs, and the RTG >> AD Deborah. >> >>>>>>> The advice was for the authors to raise the draft in ccamp and try >> >>>>>>> to progress it there. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> The authors updated their draft to version 2 and pinged the CCAMP >> >>>>>>> mailing list (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- >> 3A__www.ietf.org_mail- >> 2Darchive_web_ccamp_current_msg18124.html&d=DwIGaQ&c=LFYZ- >> o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=- >> ufLqOntt6LejLMTbN3QpjYHxsObxmPKRhiF3FnmoI0&m=irspa6NcXPKDS42mjv_ >> C- >> 7NNeuoTFH_7mVAhII6sVtw&s=NLb2VFIRSDIZ55dk2pO4gvDwRs0Cw7bPbA8Qh >> ceAs5o&e= ). >> >>>>>>> From that email thread, it seems there is interest in the work, >> >>>>>>> but where to do the work is not clear. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> My advice to the authors: continue progress this work and if CCAMP >> >>>>>>> is not interested or consider this work too generic, bring it back >> >>>>>>> to NETMOD and we'll follow normal WG process. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Regards, Benoit >> >>>>>>>> All, >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I heard from Kent that >> >>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- >> 3A__tools.ietf.org_html_draft-2Dvallin-2Dnetmod-2Dalarm- >> 2Dmodule&d=DwIGaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=- >> ufLqOntt6LejLMTbN3QpjYHxsObxmPKRhiF3FnmoI0&m=irspa6NcXPKDS42mjv_ >> C- >> 7NNeuoTFH_7mVAhII6sVtw&s=syCS3yBqAnMEHVe_skwu6LG9DP5FZk64CJVBr >> unZhxY&e= was >> >>>>>>>> moving to CCAMP but I don’t see any mention of it at >> >>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- >> 3A__datatracker.ietf.org_wg_ccamp_documents&d=DwIGaQ&c=LFYZ- >> o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=- >> ufLqOntt6LejLMTbN3QpjYHxsObxmPKRhiF3FnmoI0&m=irspa6NcXPKDS42mjv_ >> C- >> 7NNeuoTFH_7mVAhII6sVtw&s=m6NrWOmFg_T_v__mD3Fa5rqq34YuMRToX9 >> WzQvNVnD4&e= (although it is >> >>>>>>>> shown as a dependency at >> >>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- >> 3A__datatracker.ietf.org_wg_ccamp_deps_svg&d=DwIGaQ&c=LFYZ- >> o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=- >> ufLqOntt6LejLMTbN3QpjYHxsObxmPKRhiF3FnmoI0&m=irspa6NcXPKDS42mjv_ >> C- >> 7NNeuoTFH_7mVAhII6sVtw&s=SRIGQ5LxUE5aWtjNsXkGdNtbL7YnVenK61Qusl >> 9BEFE&e= ). Is any more info available please? >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >> >>>>>>>> William >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>> netmod mailing list >> >>>>>> netmod@ietf.org >> >>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- >> 3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_netmod&d=DwIGaQ&c=LFYZ- >> o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=- >> ufLqOntt6LejLMTbN3QpjYHxsObxmPKRhiF3FnmoI0&m=irspa6NcXPKDS42mjv_ >> C-7NNeuoTFH_7mVAhII6sVtw&s=zIJIO1iLPbjtdTsUknTS6d7pmny-Ov- >> v1Is3WoAyuhM&e= >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> netmod mailing list >> >>>>> netmod@ietf.org >> >>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- >> 3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_netmod&d=DwIGaQ&c=LFYZ- >> o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=- >> ufLqOntt6LejLMTbN3QpjYHxsObxmPKRhiF3FnmoI0&m=irspa6NcXPKDS42mjv_ >> C-7NNeuoTFH_7mVAhII6sVtw&s=zIJIO1iLPbjtdTsUknTS6d7pmny-Ov- >> v1Is3WoAyuhM&e= >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> netmod mailing list >> >>> netmod@ietf.org >> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https- >> 3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_netmod&d=DwIGaQ&c=LFYZ- >> o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=- >> ufLqOntt6LejLMTbN3QpjYHxsObxmPKRhiF3FnmoI0&m=irspa6NcXPKDS42mjv_ >> C-7NNeuoTFH_7mVAhII6sVtw&s=zIJIO1iLPbjtdTsUknTS6d7pmny-Ov- >> v1Is3WoAyuhM&e= >> >> >> >> >
- Re: [CCAMP] [netmod] draft-vallin-netmod-alarm-mo… BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
- Re: [CCAMP] [netmod] draft-vallin-netmod-alarm-mo… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [CCAMP] [netmod] draft-vallin-netmod-alarm-mo… William Lupton