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Hi Oscar,

Thanks for sharing on the list.

I think the plug and discover mode makes sense...mostly considering the fac=
t that it's not unlikely to have the router from a vendor and the pluggable=
 form a different one.

Cheers
Daniele

From: CCAMP <ccamp-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Oscar Gonz=E1lez de Dios
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2024 6:09 PM
To: 'CCAMP' <ccamp@ietf.org>
Subject: [CCAMP] ACTN PoI Pluggable Use Cases call on 02/04/2024

Dear CCAMP colleagues,

              Today, as announced in the CCAMP meeting and mailing list, we=
 started the series of conference calls on ACTN PoI Pluggables Use cases, s=
tarting from the document presented in ccamp meeting in draft-poidt-ccamp-a=
ctn-poi-pluggable-usecases-gaps .

              We reviewed the document and, in the call, we focused on the =
use case of  Coherent DWDM pluggable insertion in the router linecard port.=
 The discussion is tracked in github in https://github.com/oscargdd/draft-p=
oidt-ccamp-actn-poi-pluggable-usecases-gaps/issues/9. Please note that, as =
the document is still an individual draft we are using personal github repo=
sitory (will be in ccamp when the document is adopted).

              I would like to summarize the discussion here, so we can also=
 use the mailing list for discussion.

Once a pluggable module is inserted in the proper linecard port, should it =
start in "shutdown" mode? If the pluggable has pre-configurations (either f=
rom factory, or externally by any means), such pre-configurations should be=
 learnt also in the discovery phase.

There was some discussions around "plug and play". The general consensus wa=
s that, for the pluggable case, what is really desired is "plug and discove=
r", and then, do the proper configurations to work, but NOT just "out of th=
e box" start to work.

Next week we will review the use case with suggestions from the participant=
s (contributions via Pull Request in github) and continue with the next use=
 case in the draft. Join us if you are interested in the topic!

Best Regards,

              Oscar  (and rest of Packet over Optical folks participating i=
n the call).





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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Hi Oscar,<o:p></o:p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Thanks for sharing =
on the list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">I think the plug an=
d discover mode makes sense&#8230;mostly considering the fact that it&#8217=
;s not unlikely to have the router from a vendor and the pluggable form a d=
ifferent one.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Cheers<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Daniele&nbsp; <o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:non=
e">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;mso-ligatures:none"> CCA=
MP &lt;ccamp-bounces@ietf.org&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Oscar Gonz=E1lez de Dios<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 2, 2024 6:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'CCAMP' &lt;ccamp@ietf.org&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [CCAMP] ACTN PoI Pluggable Use Cases call on 02/04/2024<o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dear CCAMP colleagues,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Today, as announced in the CCAMP meeting and mai=
ling list, we started the series of conference calls on ACTN PoI Pluggables=
 Use cases, starting from the document presented in ccamp meeting in draft-=
poidt-ccamp-actn-poi-pluggable-usecases-gaps
 .<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; We reviewed the document and, in the call, we fo=
cused on the use case of &nbsp;Coherent DWDM pluggable insertion in the rou=
ter linecard port. The discussion is tracked in github in
<a href=3D"https://github.com/oscargdd/draft-poidt-ccamp-actn-poi-pluggable=
-usecases-gaps/issues/9">
https://github.com/oscargdd/draft-poidt-ccamp-actn-poi-pluggable-usecases-g=
aps/issues/9</a>. Please note that, as the document is still an individual =
draft we are using personal github repository (will be in ccamp when the do=
cument is adopted).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I would like to summarize the discussion here, s=
o we can also use the mailing list for discussion.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in">Once a p=
luggable module is inserted in the proper linecard port, should it start in=
 &#8220;shutdown&#8221; mode? If the pluggable has pre-configurations (eith=
er from factory, or externally by any means), such
 pre-configurations should be learnt also in the discovery phase.<o:p></o:p=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in"><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in">There wa=
s some discussions around &#8220;plug and play&#8221;. The general consensu=
s was that, for the pluggable case, what is really desired is &#8220;plug a=
nd discover&#8221;, and then, do the proper configurations to
 work, but NOT just &#8220;out of the box&#8221; start to work.<o:p></o:p><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in"><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in">Next wee=
k we will review the use case with suggestions from the participants (contr=
ibutions via Pull Request in github) and continue with the next use case in=
 the draft. Join us if you are interested
 in the topic!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in">Best Reg=
ards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in"><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in">&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Osca=
r &nbsp;(and rest of Packet over Optical folks participating in the call).
<o:p></o:p></p>
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bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p=
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