Re: [CCAMP] Following up on Vancouver overlay discussion

Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Wed, 29 January 2014 22:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: [CCAMP] Following up on Vancouver overlay discussion
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John,
	This sounds like great progress.  Clearly the objective is to document
WG views on this topic, whether it be in 1 document or 2. I look forward
to seeing the updated document and the associated discussions (on it and
the other related drafts) in London.  I expect that adoption will depend
on how that and any list discussions go, particularly how the other
perspectives that have been/are voiced are addressed.

Thanks,
Lou

On 01/29/2014 05:33 PM, John E Drake wrote:
> Deborah and Lou,
> 
> The authors of draft-farrel-interconnected-te-info-exchange plan to
> post a new revision before the London IETF deadline. We think this
> document already contains the material for your documents 1 & 2
> and clearly shows that very few protocol extensions will be needed.
> The document also addresses both multi-technology scenarios as well
> as peer-network use cases. We believe that there has been a good
> level of offline discussion and support of this document and would
> like to hear comments on the mailing list.
> 

> In particular, whether it is ready for adoption by the WG.
> 
> Yours Irrespectively,
> 
> John
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CCAMP [mailto:ccamp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lou Berger
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:08 AM
>> To: CCAMP; BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A (ATTLABS)
>> Subject: [CCAMP] Following up on Vancouver overlay discussion
>>
>> All,
>>
>> We wanted to follow up on the plan we discussed in Vancouver.
>>
>> In Vancouver, we had talked about three types of documents:
>>    Document 1 - Models & Terminology
>> 	To be based on existing text / drafts
>>    Document 2 - Framework
>> 	To includes analysis of what can be supported
>> 	and what functions need support
>> 	(Again, taking from existing text / drafts
>> 	where available.)
>>    Document type 3 - Solution documents
>> 	To be purely contribution driven
>>
>> The enlisted editors of the first document (Julien and Oscar) have been making
>> progress and we expect that they will publish a draft soon.  This draft will be a
>> starting point for discussion and contribution/co-authorship, rather than
>> anything near completion.
>>
>> It's our hope that the document will be a sufficient foundation for work on
>> Document 2 to start.  Keep in mind that all documents will be based on
>> contributions brought to / discussed by the WG.  To be clear, and to respond to
>> some off-list e-mail, there is no limitation on discussion, drafts or
>> presentations at the next meeting on this or any related topic.
>>
>> Deborah and Lou
>>
>>
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