Re: [CDNi] [COMMERCIAL] Alexey Melnikov's Yes on draft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers-14: (withCOMMENT)

"Murray, Rob (Nokia - GB)" <rob.murray@nokia.com> Thu, 19 May 2016 15:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [CDNi] [COMMERCIAL] Alexey Melnikov's Yes on draft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers-14: (withCOMMENT)
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On 19/05/2016, 15:47, "Alexey Melnikov" <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm> wrote:

>Hi Rob,
>
>On Thu, May 19, 2016, at 03:13 PM, Murray, Rob (Nokia - GB) wrote:
>> On 18/05/2016, 16:55, "Alexey Melnikov" <aamelnikov@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>> 
>> >Alexey Melnikov has entered the following ballot position for
>> >draft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers-14: Yes
>> >
>> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >COMMENT:
>> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> >Thank you for addressing my earlier comments.
>> >
>> >Regarding my earlier change: Media type: should it have +json suffix? Is
>> >the currently defined media type deployed?
>> >
>> > -- I didn't realize that application/cdni is already registered with
>> >IANA by RFC 7736. So this comment doesn't apply and should revert this
>> >change. I am sorry about that!
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks Alexey - no problem on the "+json", that's what search & replace
>> is for! I've published a "-15" with that change.
>> 
>> Francois/Kevin - I think all the review comments against this draft are
>> cleared now.
>
>Ben needs to check the new text about TLS, which I think is addressed
>now.
>
>I don't know if you ever replied to the following question from Ben:
>
> "I assume I am missing something here. How does a surrogate know that
> the situation exists in the first place? How would a surrogate know
> about invalidate commands that happened while it was offline?"
>
>The text in question is:
>
>      A CI/T "invalidate" command may be reported as "complete" when
>      surrogates that may have the data are offline.  In this case,
>      surrogates MUST NOT use the affected data without first
>      revalidating it when they are back online.

I replied in this email ...

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cdni/nPz4CuJXuxk5dXhEP2n-gtcx7Ag

... but there not been any follow-up. So you're right, Ben's comments aren't cleared yet. Sorry.

Rob.