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Re: [Cellar] Matroska Elements to support frame side data

Steve Lhomme <slhomme@matroska.org> Sun, 18 November 2018 12:07 UTC

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From: Steve Lhomme <slhomme@matroska.org>
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:07:24 +0100
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Subject: Re: [Cellar] Matroska Elements to support frame side data
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Le lun. 12 nov. 2018 à 18:49, Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> a écrit :
>
> Steve Lhomme <slhomme@matroska.org> wrote:
>     > Just as I double check this, it turns out WebM has support for the
>     > AlphaMode and all the BlockAddition that goes with it.
>     > https://www.webmproject.org/docs/container/
>
> Is there some implication for Matroska?

That means at least we can't deprecate it and we have to make sure
what we do in the future is compatible with that. We don't want to
separate the specs. From a "container" perspective it's just a pity
that it's can't be "contained" in a BlockAdditionMapping. But that's
the only issue.

> btw: IANA (Michelle) and I had some discussion about how to reserve DocType
> names for WebM properly, and I think we have a solution.

OK, feel free to share it ;)

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Steve Lhomme
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