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Re: [Cellar] 2020-04-28 VIRTUAL INTERIM AGENDA (TOMORROW, TUESDAY)

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Tue, 28 April 2020 13:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Cellar] 2020-04-28 VIRTUAL INTERIM AGENDA (TOMORROW, TUESDAY)
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Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc> wrote:
    >> CELLAR -- DRAFT AGENDA for Virtual Interim Meeting
    >> April  28, 2020        21:00 Amsterdam  ***
    >> 19:00 UTC
    >> 15:00 NYC
    >> 12:00 San Francisco

    > I did yesterday have some intermittent net connection issues. So if i fail to appear
    > during that meeting its this time not because i forgot ;)

Understood!

    > Also just to use this opertunity, i think we should put more effort into
    > improving features & compression. This would ensure that by the time the
    > text is fully polished it is still relevant and also it could attract more
    > and a different kind of people if we did something like a compression/algorithm
    > competition for the next version of ffv1 and flac.

My understanding is that ffv1 v0-3, which is past WGLC, documents only things
that are already out there.

I'm not sure that ffv1 v4 should include new work either, but the WG could
decide to that.  Alternatively, this competition might make for a good
extension draft.

While more documents are not necessarily better because of the fixed overhead
of getting through the process, given the immense size of our documents, I
think it would be fine.

I note that the flac code is already a separate draft.
I'm not exactly sure how the competition would work.

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Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
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