[Cellar] Re: Late Agenda Items solicitation
Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 22 October 2024 16:21 UTC
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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2024 11:20:40 -0500
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Subject: [Cellar] Re: Late Agenda Items solicitation
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Dear Cellar, We have two topics on the agenda for today's meeting - the first is making sure that Martijn and Andrew reply to the RFC Editor with final approval for FLAC, and the second is what to do about the suggestion for adding support for more than 8 channels and DSD in FLAC. Given that, Michael and I agreed to - cancel today's meeting, - remind Martijn and Andrew to review the final-ish version of FLAC and reply to the RFC Editor, and - encourage discussion on the mailing list about adding functionality to FLAC. Note that our next meeting is scheduled for 2024-12-10. Michael and I have an action to propose 2025 meeting dates before that meeting, so we can discuss things there. Best, Spencer On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 9:03 AM Jerome Martinez <jerome@mediaarea.net> wrote: > Le 22/10/2024 à 11:59, Martijn van Beurden a écrit : > > As CELLAR has a background in archiving, I believe there is > > currently already a shortcoming of FLAC in archiving broadcasts and > > digital media with a Dolby Atmos soundtrack, which has more than the 8 > > channels FLAC supports. Also, FLAC cannot contain DSD, which is not > > pulse-code modulated audio, as is found on SACDs. So, already, FLAC is > > not usable when archiving these formats. > > There is definitely a need at long term for going beyond 8 channels. I > have more doubts about the need of DSD. > > > > Is this something that should be addressed in the future? If so, I see > > two possible solutions: either extending FLAC to support these inputs > > (which will break backward compatibility in some way) or promote > > another format, WavPack, which already has an ecosystem in place to > > support these formats (and has an open-source reference implementation > > too). > > It it true that between the start of the working group and now, more > work was done by the WavPack community. > That said, adding more channels to FLAC should not be a big issue, and > HW players could be easily updated for supporting this update. > So not easy to decide what to prioritize. > > Jérôme > > _______________________________________________ > Cellar mailing list -- cellar@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to cellar-leave@ietf.org >
- [Cellar] Late Agenda Items solicitation Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- [Cellar] Re: Late Agenda Items solicitation Martijn van Beurden
- [Cellar] Re: Late Agenda Items solicitation Jerome Martinez
- [Cellar] Re: Late Agenda Items solicitation Jerome Martinez
- [Cellar] Re: Late Agenda Items solicitation Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- [Cellar] Re: Late Agenda Items solicitation Michael Niedermayer