[Cellar] clarification for copyright on flac document

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Thu, 28 October 2021 00:08 UTC

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Subject: [Cellar] clarification for copyright on flac document
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On 2021-10-22 3:52 a.m., Martijn van Beurden wrote:
> I don't know what happened, but his last commit to a repository was in
> October 2009. The new maintainer said that he was 'missing' in Febuary
> 2012: http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/flac-dev/2012-February/003083.html
> In April 2012 he surfaced again:
> http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/flac-dev/2012-April/003340.html for a
> month, disappearing again presumably after this mail:
> http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/flac-dev/2012-May/003384.html It
> seemed nobody was able to contact him:
> http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/flac-dev/2012-December/003522.html
> 
> The only recent sign of life I can find is that his Hydrogenaud.io
> forum profile (jcoalson) was last active about a year ago. Perhaps
> some of the people at Xiph know how he can be contacted?
> 
> Rewording the specification to avoid copyright issues is not that
> hard, but I feel that it would be nice to incorporate the original
> author as well, if possible.

The advice from the IETF Trust is that we need to get the original 
author, Josh Coalson, to license the document under an RFC Trust 
compatible license.
Somewhere else someone said that they had a phone number.
Please, if you could unicast that to me, I will phone Josh tomorrow.