Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for feedback
Tessa Fallon <tessa.fallon@gmail.com> Thu, 16 March 2017 03:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for feedback
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RE: Jul 2017 Submit specification for FFV1 video codec version 4 to IESG (Standards Track) Sep 2017 Submit specification for Matroska container format version 4 to IESG (Standards Track) Mar 2017 Submit informational specification for FFV1 video codec versions 0, 1 and 3 to IESG for publication Mar 2017 Submit specification for EBML to IESG (Standards Track) May 2017 Submit informational specification for Matroska container format versions 1, 2 and 3 to IESG for publication If these seem like reasonable dates to contributors, I will move to update milestones. RE: FLAC, backburner IMO until other milestones are on track. If there are folks who only want to work on FLAC and who are not actively working on other specs, I would ask them to speak up here to organize. I know there were some efforts a while ago, but I am not personally aware of any progress. Tessa On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Dave Rice <dave@dericed.com> wrote: > Hi Tessa, Steve, cellar, > > On Sep 18, 2016, at 3:44 AM, Steve Lhomme <slhomme@matroska.org> wrote: > > 2016-09-13 15:58 GMT+02:00 Tessa Fallon <tessa.fallon@gmail.com>: > > At the CELLAR meeting in July, it was decided that working group milestones > would need to be revised. The current list is below. > > Would those working on FFV1, EBML, and Matroska weigh in on the state of > the > specifications and projected timelines for work to be completed? I note > that the most recent changes to EBML were submitted on Sunday 9/11. Where > does this leave the document? > > > It's an on-going effort. There are currently 16 issues opened on the > EBML specs alone: > https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues > > > EBML is down to 7 issues now, though some are ideas/considerations rather > than issues. I propose that a milestone for submitting EBML to IESG is > reset to a date in the near-future (end of March), and nudge for more > comprehensive peer-reviews of the EBML specification. > > There are 5 on Matroska but that's because most of the effort has been > concentrated on EBML yet: > https://github.com/Matroska-Org/matroska-specification/issues > > > Matroska is now up to 19 issues since it’s been more active lately. It’s > certainly a large specification so perhaps we should set a new list of more > granular milestones for the components of the specification: > > - attachments > - chapters / menu > - codec_specs > - cues > - diagram > - the EBML Schema of Matroska > - index / notes / order_guidelines / streaming > - subtitles > - tagging / metadata > > Volunteers to manage a review of the state of each component? > > With FFV1, there’s 6 open issues and half refer to future version > enhancements. Volunteers willing, I think it’s likely a version 0, 1, 2, 3 > specification of FFV1 could be ready to submit to the IESG at the end of > March as well. > > However these depend on sufficient peer-reviews. Perhaps we could > collaborate with one of the other audiovisual working groups for a > cross-peer-review. > > Here’s a new draft of a milestone list, please comment/advice: > > ? Submit specification for FLAC audio codec to IESG (Standards Track) > Jul 2017 Submit specification for FFV1 video codec version 4 to > IESG (Standards Track) > Sep 2017 Submit specification for Matroska container format version 4 > to IESG (Standards Track) > Mar 2017 Submit informational specification for FFV1 video codec versions > 0, 1 and 3 to IESG for publication > Mar 2017 Submit specification for EBML to IESG (Standards Track) > May 2017 Submit informational specification for Matroska container > format versions 1, 2 and 3 to IESG for publication > > Although since Matroska version 4 has been in use for so longer, perhaps > the milestone to work on a future Matroska version should be changed to > ‘version 5’ rather than 4. > > Also FLAC? There’s been a few volunteer to get this started (self > included), but as far as I know, there’s no progress on this specification. > > Thanks much, > Dave > > There are way more elements to defined in Matroska, various > interactions between them and all kinds of loopholes that we need to > iron out. > > Much thanks, > Tessa > > Date > Dec 2016 Submit specification for FLAC audio codec to IESG (Standards > Track) > Sep 2016 Submit specification for FFV1 video codec version 4 to IESG > (Standards Track) > Jul 2016 Submit specification for Matroska container format version 4 to > IESG (Standards Track) > Jul 2016 Submit informational specification for FFV1 video codec versions > 0, > 1 and 3 to IESG for publication > Jun 2016 Submit specification for EBML to IESG (Standards Track) > Jun 2016 Submit informational specification for Matroska container format > versions 1, 2 and 3 to IESG for publication > > _______________________________________________ > Cellar mailing list > Cellar@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar > > > > > -- > Steve Lhomme > Matroska association Chairman > > _______________________________________________ > Cellar mailing list > Cellar@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cellar > > >
- [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for fee… Tessa Fallon
- Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for… Steve Lhomme
- Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for… Dave Rice
- Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for… Tessa Fallon
- Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for… Brian Willoughby
- Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for… Pierre-Yves Thoulon
- Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for… Peter B.
- Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for… Jerome Martinez
- Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for… Jerome Martinez
- Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for… Andrew James Weaver