Re: [Cellar] IETF current milestones: request for feedback

Tessa Fallon <tessa.fallon@gmail.com> Thu, 16 March 2017 03:25 UTC

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RE:

Jul 2017 Submit specification for FFV1 video codec version 4 to
IESG (Standards Track)
Sep 2017 Submit specification for Matroska container format version 4
to IESG (Standards Track)
Mar 2017 Submit informational specification for FFV1 video codec versions
0, 1 and 3 to IESG for publication
Mar 2017 Submit specification for EBML to IESG (Standards Track)
May 2017 Submit informational specification for Matroska container
format versions 1, 2 and 3 to IESG for publication

If these seem like reasonable dates to contributors, I will move to update
milestones.

RE: FLAC, backburner IMO until other milestones are on track.  If there are
folks who only want to work on FLAC and who are not actively working on
other specs, I would ask them to speak up here to organize.  I know there
were some efforts a while ago, but I am not personally aware of any
progress.

Tessa

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 6:31 PM, Dave Rice <dave@dericed.com> wrote:

> Hi Tessa, Steve, cellar,
>
> On Sep 18, 2016, at 3:44 AM, Steve Lhomme <slhomme@matroska.org> wrote:
>
> 2016-09-13 15:58 GMT+02:00 Tessa Fallon <tessa.fallon@gmail.com>:
>
> At the CELLAR meeting in July, it was decided that working group milestones
> would need to be revised.   The current list is below.
>
> Would those working on FFV1, EBML, and Matroska weigh in on the state of
> the
> specifications and projected timelines for work to be completed?  I note
> that the most recent changes to EBML were submitted on Sunday 9/11.  Where
> does this leave the document?
>
>
> It's an on-going effort. There are currently 16 issues opened on the
> EBML specs alone:
> https://github.com/Matroska-Org/ebml-specification/issues
>
>
> EBML is down to 7 issues now, though some are ideas/considerations rather
> than issues. I propose that a milestone for submitting EBML to IESG is
> reset to a date in the near-future (end of March), and nudge for more
> comprehensive peer-reviews of the EBML specification.
>
> There are 5 on Matroska but that's because most of the effort has been
> concentrated on EBML yet:
> https://github.com/Matroska-Org/matroska-specification/issues
>
>
> Matroska is now up to 19 issues since it’s been more active lately. It’s
> certainly a large specification so perhaps we should set a new list of more
> granular milestones for the components of the specification:
>
> - attachments
> - chapters / menu
> - codec_specs
> - cues
> - diagram
> - the EBML Schema of Matroska
> - index / notes / order_guidelines / streaming
> - subtitles
> - tagging / metadata
>
> Volunteers to manage a review of the state of each component?
>
> With FFV1, there’s 6 open issues and half refer to future version
> enhancements. Volunteers willing, I think it’s likely a version 0, 1, 2, 3
> specification of FFV1 could be ready to submit to the IESG at the end of
> March as well.
>
> However these depend on sufficient peer-reviews. Perhaps we could
> collaborate with one of the other audiovisual working groups for a
> cross-peer-review.
>
> Here’s a new draft of a milestone list, please comment/advice:
>
> ? Submit specification for FLAC audio codec to IESG (Standards Track)
> Jul 2017 Submit specification for FFV1 video codec version 4 to
> IESG (Standards Track)
> Sep 2017 Submit specification for Matroska container format version 4
> to IESG (Standards Track)
> Mar 2017 Submit informational specification for FFV1 video codec versions
> 0, 1 and 3 to IESG for publication
> Mar 2017 Submit specification for EBML to IESG (Standards Track)
> May 2017 Submit informational specification for Matroska container
> format versions 1, 2 and 3 to IESG for publication
>
> Although since Matroska version 4 has been in use for so longer, perhaps
> the milestone to work on a future Matroska version should be changed to
> ‘version 5’ rather than 4.
>
> Also FLAC? There’s been a few volunteer to get this started (self
> included), but as far as I know, there’s no progress on this specification.
>
> Thanks much,
> Dave
>
> There are way more elements to defined in Matroska, various
> interactions between them and all kinds of loopholes that we need to
> iron out.
>
> Much thanks,
> Tessa
>
> Date
> Dec 2016 Submit specification for FLAC audio codec to IESG (Standards
> Track)
> Sep 2016 Submit specification for FFV1 video codec version 4 to IESG
> (Standards Track)
> Jul 2016 Submit specification for Matroska container format version 4 to
> IESG (Standards Track)
> Jul 2016 Submit informational specification for FFV1 video codec versions
> 0,
> 1 and 3 to IESG for publication
> Jun 2016 Submit specification for EBML to IESG (Standards Track)
> Jun 2016 Submit informational specification for Matroska container format
> versions 1, 2 and 3 to IESG for publication
>
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