Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-server-id-check-03

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Wed, 12 May 2010 22:38 UTC

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On 5/12/10 2:29 PM, =JeffH wrote:
>> Is this text more accurate?
>>
>>    The subject field of a PKIX certificate is defined as a X.501 type
>>    Name and known as a Distinguished Name (DN) -- see [X.501] and
>>    [PKIX].  A DN is an ordered sequence of Relative Distinguished Name
>>    (RDNs), where an RDN is a set (i.e., an unordered group) of type-and-
>>    value pairs [LDAP-DN], each of which asserts some attribute about the
>>    subject of the certificate.
> 
> yes, IMV.

Good.

>> BTW I don't see any evidence for the following claim in RFC 4514:
>>
>>    The RDNs are ordered in the DN sequence from
>>    most general to most specific.
> 
> It is in X.501 (V3 (4th edition) section 9.7)..
> 
>   The distinguished name of a given object is defined as that name which
>   consists of the sequence of the RDNs of the entry which represents the
>   object and those of all of its superior entries (in descending order).
> 
> 
> However, various (many? most?) CAs don't have an actual X.500 / LDAP
> directory with actual entries for the subjects of the certs they issue,
> and so concoct their subjectName DNs outta thin air (more or less) and
> so the notion that the RDNs in such DNs are ordered from most general to
> most specific doesn't necessarily hold (from what I understand).
> 
> So I'm not sure right now what to say about that. I suspect we can still
> stipulate that the only RDN having attr type of CN that we'll pay
> attention to is the one at the far end of the RDN sequence comprising
> the DN.

We can stipulate that, but is it realistic?

Peter

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