[certid] Moving RFC 2818 to Historic (was Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-server-id-check-04)

Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Tue, 08 June 2010 15:28 UTC

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Subject: [certid] Moving RFC 2818 to Historic (was Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-server-id-check-04)
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Hi Sean,

Sean Turner wrote:

>>> As I said, here you have room for clarification. You essentially
>>> rewrite 2818 
>>
>> This proposed BCP is not limited to HTTP so it does not (only) rewrite
>> RFC 2818, but yes it is intended (in part) to provide more up-to-date
>> guidelines.
>
> Should we add a section that moves 2818 to historic? (sorry if this 
> has been asked before)

RFC 2818 contains more information than just the TLS server identity 
verification procedure for https. Besides RFC 2818 is widely used and I 
think moving it to historic would be a disservice to the community. 
Maybe you meant to suggest "obsoleting" it?

One year ago I was trying to convince Ekr to update RFC 2818, but he 
wasn't interested. I still think this would be a good idea. I also think 
that HTTPBIS is a better place for this activity.