Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component fragments
Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Thu, 07 October 2010 20:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component fragments
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On 10/7/10 6:57 AM, ArkanoiD wrote: > Are there any such certificates "in the wild"? Do current clients > support it? If there aren't any and it is not supported anyways, > let's keep status quo and do not make things more complicated than > needed. For www1, www2 etc one may use extra name component and > that's all. What do you mean by "the status quo" -- the text in version -09 of the server-id-check I-D (no wildcard in component fragments, like foo*) or the text in RFC 2818 and several other specs (*oo and f*o and foo* are fine)? As far as I can see, allowing wildcards in component fragments makes things more complicated than needed because a CA needs to have more complex rules for issuance and a TLS library or application client needs to have a more complex parsing algorithm (checking for things like *oo.example.com and foo*.example.com and f*o.example.com instead of just *.example.com -- it's also not clear to me from RFC 2818 if multiple instances of the wildcard character are allowed, such that f*b*r.example.com would be acceptable). Allowing '*' only as the complete left-most label seems easier to me (and I've received feedback to that effect off-list, as well). Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/
- [certid] open issue: wildcards in component fragm… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… ArkanoiD
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… ArkanoiD
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Martin Rex
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Matt McCutchen
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Matt McCutchen
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Martin Rex
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Martin Rex
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Martin Rex
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Joe Orton
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Matt McCutchen
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Jeffrey A. Williams
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Martin Rex
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Matt McCutchen
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Matt McCutchen
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Martin Rex
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… =JeffH
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Jeffrey A. Williams
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Martin Rex
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcards in component f… Peter Saint-Andre