Re: [certid] Domain Components

Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> Mon, 21 June 2010 17:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [certid] Domain Components
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At 7:12 PM +0200 6/21/10, Peter Sylvester wrote:
>>Exactly. Someone reading the *text* of RFC 5280 would see the components in left-to-right order; only those who read the non-normative dumps would see that they actually appear in the certificate in the correct right-to-left order.
>>  
>Yes.
>>No one would ever make the mistake of only reading the normative text, of course...
>>  
>Or write RFCs with ambiguous normative part which cannot be understood
>with the non-normative part. :-)
>>--Paul Hoffman, Director
>>--VPN Consortium
>>  
>As I said in a previous message,  the pb also occurs in a string form
>like   cn=Paul, O=VPN Consortium

Quite true.

>I think one might want enhance the normative part of RFC 5280:
>
>   The Name describes a hierarchical name composed of attributes, such
>   as country name, and corresponding values, such as US.  The type of
>   the component AttributeValue is determined by the AttributeType; in
>   general it will be a DirectoryString.
>
>without other texts of X5xx this is also ambiguous. It doesn't say
>how the hierarchy is encoded, etc for name constraints, what
>is a subtree (prefix or suffix)?  I may have overlooked something?

You have overlooked the fact that this effort is to create a new document, not to update RFC 5280, which the PKIX group insists is readable enough. I am well-known for disagreeing, and that is why I think that this new document allowing constructs that are known security problems is a bad idea.

--Paul Hoffman, Director
--VPN Consortium