Re: [certid] additional security consideration
Michael Ströder <michael@stroeder.com> Thu, 18 March 2010 20:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: [certid] additional security consideration
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Joe Orton wrote: > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 08:54:36PM +0100, Michael Ströder wrote: >> Joe Orton wrote: >>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 07:07:31AM +0300, ArkanoiD wrote: >>>> Second level domain MUST NOT be wildcarded, thus *.com is invalid and should >>>> never match. (as well as "*", of course) >>> >>> I don't think it's appropriate for the draft to specify any requirement >>> beyond the "left-most label" rule, so far as wildcards go. I could >>> imagine a "*.local" or similar could be useful to allow, and *.com is >>> really little more dangerous than *.co.uk. >> >> Good point with *.co.uk but I'd draw the opposite conclusion from it: >> I'd rather like to see wildcards forbidden completely or at least strongly >> discouraged. > > I don't agree, wildcard certs are very useful in some circumstances. > > In any case, I'd hope the goal for this draft is to document current > best practice, Whatever one considers to be best practice... > Trying to impose a "no wildcards" > rule without broad consensus from CAs and the browser vendors (good luck > with that) would harm rather than improve interop. Why do you assume that there is broad consensus from CAs and the browser vendors for wildcard certs? https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:Problematic_Practices#Wildcard_DV_SSL_certificates Ciao, Michael.
- [certid] additional security consideration ArkanoiD
- Re: [certid] additional security consideration Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] additional security consideration Joe Orton
- Re: [certid] additional security consideration Michael Ströder
- Re: [certid] additional security consideration Joe Orton
- Re: [certid] additional security consideration Michael Ströder
- Re: [certid] additional security consideration Peter Saint-Andre
- [certid] open issue: wildcard certs Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] open issue: wildcard certs ArkanoiD