Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-server-id-check-03
Martin Rex <mrex@sap.com> Wed, 12 May 2010 23:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-server-id-check-03
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Sean Turner wrote: > > > So I'm not sure right now what to say about that. I suspect we can still > > stipulate that the only RDN having attr type of CN that we'll pay > > attention to is the one at the far end of the RDN sequence comprising > > the DN. > > I think a lot of DNs got concocted because X.500 implementers assumed > the examples in X.501 were normative. That is c=, o=, (4) ou=, cn=. > But, you're might be right about no descending ordering can be > assumed. If you look at the subjectName in the datatracker > certificate it's: > > CN = *.ietf.org > OU = Terms of use at www.verisign.com/rpa (c)05 > OU = Internet Engineering Task Force > O = IETF Trust > L = Reston > ST = Virginia > C = US When I received a request for help ~2 years ago doing a more complex processing/mapping/evaluation of Subject(Alt)Names and IssuerNames from X.509 certificates during logon at the application level, we created an additional intermediate format between ASN.1 DER and string representation. It consists of a (pre-sorted by OID) linked list of entries where each of the list entries carries the attribute (or sAN) OID and an UTF8 representation of the attribute value. (plus side info, like the original position in the ASN.1 DER encoding, whether it was the first element of an RDName set, and some other stuff). Basically the divide-and-conquer approach. split one problem into two smaller problems that are easier to solve. So when looking for a CN in subject, the app requests the subject name from a given cert an searches the resulting list for all occurences of the 2.5.4.cn(3) OID aka {3, "\x55\x04\x03" } Similarly, when looking for a server endpoint sAN match, the app requests the subjectaltname from a given cert and searches the resulting list for all occurrences of the dNSName pseudo-OID {4, "\x55\x1D\x11\x02" } and iPAddress pseudo-OID {4, "\x55\x1D\x11\x07" } as described in rfc2818. Concerning the list of sANs in the -04 draft, I came across these two Microsoft "other" sANs while implementing this: "msUPN" {10, "\x2B\x06\x01\x04\x01\x82\x37\x14\x02\x03"} "msGUID" { 9, "\x2B\x06\x01\x04\x01\x82\x37\x19\x01" } "msUPN" = 1.3.6.1.4.1.311.20.2.3 "msGUID" = 1.3.6.1.4.1.311.25.1 Which is also mention at the bottom of this page http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc736326%28WS.10,printer%29.aspx -Martin
- [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-server-… Nelson B Bolyard
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… =JeffH
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Nelson B Bolyard
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Martin Rex
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… =JeffH
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… =JeffH
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Sean Turner
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Love Hörnquist Åstrand
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… ArkanoiD
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Martin Rex
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… =JeffH
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Martin Rex
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Love Hörnquist Åstrand
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Joe Orton
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Kaspar Brand
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Peter Sylvester
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Peter Sylvester
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Peter Sylvester
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Martin Rex
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… ArkanoiD
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Henry B. Hotz
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Matt McCutchen
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Martin Rex
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Martin Rex
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Nelson B Bolyard
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Sean Turner
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Peter Sylvester
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Martin Rex
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Nelson B Bolyard
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Martin Rex
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Nelson B Bolyard
- [certid] Moving RFC 2818 to Historic (was Comment… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [certid] Moving RFC 2818 to Historic (was Com… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [certid] Moving RFC 2818 to Historic (was Com… Sean Turner
- Re: [certid] Moving RFC 2818 to Historic (was Com… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [certid] Comments on draft-saintandre-tls-ser… Henry B. Hotz