Re: [certid] some info from SSL labs cert survey data

"Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com> Fri, 15 October 2010 21:48 UTC

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From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
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Jeff and all,

  Are you saying that self-singed certs are not valid?  If
so, how on earth did they get into the dbase?


-----Original Message-----
>From: =JeffH <Jeff.Hodges@KingsMountain.com>
>Sent: Oct 15, 2010 4:01 PM
>To: IETF cert-based identity <certid@ietf.org>
>Subject: [certid] some info from SSL labs cert survey data
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>I've done some modest poking around the SSL labs cert survey data, below's some 
>numbers.
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>First, the dataset has 867361 domains along with data extracted from their 
>certs (one row per domain). The details on how Ivan selected the domains are here..
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><http://blog.ivanristic.com/2010/07/ssl-server-survey-so-whats-with-the-22m-invalid-certificates-claim.html>
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>That explanation hints that most all the certs represented in the dataset would 
>be "valid" certs.  However, there's ~150k more entries in the dbase than the 
>~720K valid certs he observed. Though, there's ~150k apparently "self-signed" 
>certs in the dbase, so perhaps that's what's filling out the dbase.
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>Here's some quick numbers..
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>all 867361 have a "CN=" in the subject name (CN-ID).
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>None appear to have more than one CN-ID
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>392497 (45%) use the subjectAltName field for at least one altName (of some 
>type (I haven't yet investigated whether he gathered more than only DNS-IDs 
>(but upon quick browsing it looks like they are most all DNS-IDs)))
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>6487  (0.75%) have > 5 altNames (of some type)
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>145  (0.02%)  have > 50 altNames (of some type)
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>33831  (4%) use a wildcard in their name in some fashion (they sometimes are in 
>CN-ID, or subjectAltName, or both it appears upon quick browsing)
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>153113 (18%) have a null trustAnchor field - suggesting they are self-signed(?)
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>99673  (11%) have subjectCommonName == issuerCommonName -- most self-signed(?)
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>52929  (6%)  have subjectCommonName != issuerCommonName and a null trustAnchor 
>field.
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>0            have subjectCommonName == issuerCommonName and a non-null
>trustAnchor field.
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>There are 86 distinct trustAnchor names in the data set.
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>HTH,
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>=JeffH
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