[certid] open issue: self-signed certs

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Fri, 09 April 2010 16:29 UTC

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Subject: [certid] open issue: self-signed certs
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Regarding self-signed certs, Alexey and I had the following exchange...

On 4/5/10 3:34 PM, Alexey Melnikov wrote:
> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> 
>> Given that a self-signed certificate can say *anything*, I don't know
>> that it's helpful to enforce any rules about issuance and checking of
>> self-signed certs. It's not as if any "certification" has taken place in
>> this situation.
>>
> +1.

Someone named "ArkanaoiD" (how's that for identity? :) wrote:

   Well, when it comes to implementation we get *two* matching
   algorithms then, which is definitely no good.

IMHO we don't necessarily get two matching algorithms -- it's just that
the matching algorithm for self-signed certificates is not specified in
this document. Given that we are trying to define best practices for
secure authentication of application services, I don't think it makes a
lot of sense to discuss self-signed certs.

Bruno Harbulot wrote:

   I'm not sure this I-D should treat self-signed certs completely
   differently from CA-issued certs. Self-signed certs could be
   considered as a special case of CA-issued certs.

And Bil Corry wrote:

   I agree.  Isn't the distinction between CA-issued certs and
   self-signed certs more-or-less which CAs you choose to trust?

Bruno and Bil, would you find it acceptable if this document simply does
not mention self-signed certificates? We really are trying to limit the
scope of this document to a very particular problem, but I'm quite open
to discussing related problems in other documents. However, if it is
going to be more confusing to say that self-signed certs are out of
scope then I'd consider including some text about them.

Peter

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