Re: [Cfrg] irsg review of draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs-12
Richard Outerbridge <outer@interlog.com> Wed, 05 September 2018 08:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] irsg review of draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs-12
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For shore true, butt there’s always the Lord of the Rings risk: ”One ring to rule them all …” __outer > On 2018-09-05 (248), at 04:33:13, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, 5 Sep. 2018, 18:03 Stephen Farrell, <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie <mailto:stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>> wrote: > > I disagree. We have seen cases (e.g. [1]) where CFRG RFCs > leaving in options has lead to IETF WGs debating what to do, > over and over. That seems to me to be CFRG's "fault" as it's > predictable and could affect interop. > > I agree with Stephen here. Though that part of the work might be more difficult, it is also the most valuable. Getting a tool with multiple knobs is not a net improvement over having no tool at all, and it can lead to interop failures. > > Too many primitives we get are effectively unusable as a result of having options. The debate around ed25519 use for DKIM is a great example of that. RSA-PSS is another great example of a tool with too many independent inputs. > > Those who find the one option too constraining can take on the extra costs of breaking new ground. Most should not have to. > _______________________________________________ > Cfrg mailing list > Cfrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg
- [Cfrg] irsg review of draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs-12 Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] irsg review of draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs-… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- Re: [Cfrg] irsg review of draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs-… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] irsg review of draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs-… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- Re: [Cfrg] irsg review of draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs-… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] irsg review of draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs-… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Cfrg] irsg review of draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs-… Richard Outerbridge
- Re: [Cfrg] irsg review of draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs-… A. Huelsing
- Re: [Cfrg] irsg review of draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs-… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Cfrg] irsg review of draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs-… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Cfrg] irsg review of draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs-… Richard Outerbridge
- Re: [Cfrg] irsg review of draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs-… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [Cfrg] irsg review of draft-mcgrew-hash-sigs-… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)