[CFRG] Re: RG Last Call on draft-irtf-cfrg-hybrid-kems-12 and draft-irtf-cfrg-concrete-hybrid-kems-04

Soatok Dreamseeker <soatok.dhole@gmail.com> Sat, 11 July 2026 02:43 UTC

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I was referring to your SafeCurves website.
https://safecurves.cr.yp.to/complete.html still says P-256 doesn't satisfy
completeness, and https://safecurves.cr.yp.to/ind.html claims it doesn't
satisfy indistinguishability.

Maybe consider updating these pages to incorporate research that's as fresh
as 11-12 years old.

On Fri, Jul 10, 2026 at 10:18 PM D. J. Bernstein <djb@cr.yp.to> wrote:

> The specific context here is that I cited a 2024 paper as follows: "For
> the concrete KEMs, https://cr.yp.to/papers.html#safecurves reviews how
> X25519 avoids various security dangers of NIST P-256."
>
> Soatok Dreamseeker writes:
> > I would like to add that SafeCurves is woefully outdated.
> > https://eprint.iacr.org/2015/1060
> > https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/043
>
> I see no justification for this claim. Can you please quote a statement
> that you claim is rendered obsolete by https://eprint.iacr.org/2015/1060
> and/or <https://eprint.iacr.org/2015/1060and/or>
> https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/043?
>
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