Re: [Cfrg] Elliptic Curves - poll on specific curve around 256bit work factor (ends on February 23rd)
Alyssa Rowan <akr@akr.io> Fri, 20 February 2015 20:15 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Elliptic Curves - poll on specific curve around 256bit work factor (ends on February 23rd)
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 > [TA] Have you considered doing a poll of what specific curves > people actually want to use? > [PHB] […] your poll […] rather undercuts the whole process. Strongly agreed. > [KP] Yes, we considered a number of different ways of narrowing > down our choices. However, we settled on doing it this way. Please > stick with us. With the greatest respect, if upstream and external parties were willing to tolerate undocumented decisions by editor/chair fiat, they'd stick with the NIST curves, wouldn't they? We were asked because publicly-documented technical consensus, not guided by any one party, is very highly desirable. We need that if our efforts are to be meaningful. > [PHB] The way I would do this is as a Quaker poll asking people > what their preferred outcome is and what they can live with on 448, > 480, 512 and 521. I agree - that process will probably work much better than these forced-choice yes/no polls! So: my preference votes on prime consensus for the record: Just 2^255-19: Acceptable [no concerns; but CAs want extra-strength] 2^379-19: No [one 1 mod 4 is probably enough] 2^384-317: No [slow and awkward] 2^389-21: Acceptable [seems fast, but not very well-explored] 2^414-17: Acceptable [fast, but a slightly awkward size] 2^448-2^224-1: Preferred [fast, strong, good size, plenty of margin] 2^480-2^240-1: Acceptable [fast, but only with 64-bit] 2^512-569: No [way too slow; awkward; would not implement] 2^521-1: Acceptable [could live with it; slower than I'd like] - -- /akr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJU55XaAAoJEOyEjtkWi2t6jH4P/1F6iBWEt8i7Y1aLXKQo8Efm FncsTL1Byh51vi0WHHjnrJ+9d8z/oNecFeklfjPVvu5+rdezpCR+m2MN/SwW8d25 WmYjse75bBN9ilz7YohD7T632fUi4wcG1ffRnyNGw40ngiZIJopPAJMA0SZ4N5Wl OPaIUNssN/y+XoEcezFzAioIoUkO+C24r3589dc5Bozd7hZQfz4INmyajFHGhgBy ctpzMAoOqD+lgY6dbpeWrprV8Nnr3ZMm5Hnq9lb5rFgSSDUU8KsU5yIMX9yTwK/p JFPewlUyJK4nb6zdj3Wc42pPgJuezXfdfrif6I6YRwFxet0lRMN1QVFKANubdOtC hIKjQjBdMWYKcQkpFQJhoAiHSbMKSFafO+3KeMimyn3aKYotIUyuRZ9bf89cMuzl HjABTiPmZNU4hyXxOn/9eNd5vd5T+UIKRY+RfVxSPwo6S/dDphwJ7W/3dhiwCMWI AC6Ix5PFCia/y/TFP9R+edsHpmjzUwL+5MgJ+/oSUCgwFDuW8mpuncAtfPLujVQA dsDkzhcJZvlna1AiIh8bNiAj9TFnyiiWr3K33tNPmTaocuN6y7yC3BW2hMiGbzT+ 7u5TU8krsfiq1tG/yPzriZBXdlYmnMhTl9LmGvBw9gEMqxtmChJTXDdz0XnI7uy0 4YgaokzGUjTwkn5PxI9X =FXwL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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- Re: [Cfrg] Elliptic Curves - poll on specific cur… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [Cfrg] Elliptic Curves - poll on specific cur… Alyssa Rowan
- Re: [Cfrg] Elliptic Curves - poll on specific cur… Aaron Zauner
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- Re: [Cfrg] Elliptic Curves - poll on specific cur… Tony Arcieri
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- Re: [Cfrg] Elliptic Curves - poll on specific cur… Tony Arcieri
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- Re: [Cfrg] Elliptic Curves - poll on specific cur… Tony Arcieri
- Re: [Cfrg] Elliptic Curves - poll on specific cur… Watson Ladd
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- Re: [Cfrg] Elliptic Curves - poll on specific cur… Alyssa Rowan
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