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Hi,

The datatracker has an =E2=80=9CAdditional resources=E2=80=9D field for e=
ach draft, =

that can be used to cross-reference to GitHub repos, etc.

Colin


On 20 Sep 2024, at 1:17, Christopher Patton wrote:

> Hi CFRG,
>
> It occurred to me today that our drafts often have human-friendly test
> vectors that look something like this:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9180#appendix-A.1.1
>
> These aren't super convenient for a machine. In theory you could write =

> a
> script that downloads https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9180.txt and =

> write
> a parser to pull out the test vectors, but does anyone really do this?
> Luckily for RFC 9180 we have a JSON version to work with instead:
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cfrg/draft-irtf-cfrg-hpke/refs/heads/=
master/test-vectors.json
>
> How do folks feel about pointing to machine readable test vectors from =

> an
> RFC in lieu of producing human-friendly, but machine-unfriendly in the
> appendix? Suppose for example an RFC had a pointer to a JSON blob =

> somewhere
> on datatracker. Is this feasible/desirable?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris P.

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<p dir=3D"auto">The datatracker has an =E2=80=9CAdditional resources=E2=80=
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epos, etc.</p>
<p dir=3D"auto">Colin</p>
<br><p dir=3D"auto">On 20 Sep 2024, at 1:17, Christopher Patton wrote:</p=
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<div>Hi CFRG,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>It occurred to me today that our drafts often have human-friendly te=
st vectors that look something like this:</div>
<div><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9180#appendix-A.=
1.1">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9180#appendix-A.1.1</a></di=
v>
<div><br></div>
<div>These aren't super convenient for a machine. In theory you could wri=
te a script that downloads <a href=3D"https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9=
180.txt">https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9180.txt</a> and write a parse=
r to pull out the test vectors, but does anyone really do this? Luckily f=
or RFC 9180 we have a JSON version to work with instead:</div>
<div><a href=3D"https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cfrg/draft-irtf-cfrg-hp=
ke/refs/heads/master/test-vectors.json">https://raw.githubusercontent.com=
/cfrg/draft-irtf-cfrg-hpke/refs/heads/master/test-vectors.json</a></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>How do folks feel about pointing to machine readable test vectors fr=
om an RFC in lieu of producing human-friendly, but machine-unfriendly in =
the appendix? Suppose for example an RFC had a pointer to a JSON blob som=
ewhere on datatracker. Is this feasible/desirable?</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Chris P.<br></div>
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