Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticated encryption
Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz> Thu, 30 April 2020 09:29 UTC
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From: Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz>
To: Neil Madden <neil.e.madden@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticated encryption
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Neil Madden <neil.e.madden@gmail.com> writes: >I’m struggling to understand why you’d think this is complicated. Have you seen an end-user application built with Bouncy Castle that uses it correctly? I mean actually audited the code in the application to check that they get it right? (I've done code audits of programs that misuse DH/ECDH mechanisms for key transport. So far I've never found one that gets it right, and in several cases I was unable to explain to the developers how to change their code to use the mechanism securely. I've had a writeup on this half-done for awhile with the title "Libhairshirt vs libfootgun", really must get around to finishing it). Peter.
- [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticated e… Neil Madden
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Paul Grubbs
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Dan Brown
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Neil Madden
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Dan Brown
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Neil Madden
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Dan Brown
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Neil Madden
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Paul Grubbs
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Neil Madden
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Neil Madden
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Peter Gutmann
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Andreas Hülsing
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Neil Madden
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Neil Madden
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… pag225
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Neil Madden
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Paul Grubbs
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Paul Grubbs
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Mihir Bellare
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Mike Jones
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Neil Madden
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Neil Madden
- Re: [Cfrg] Multi-recipient public key authenticat… Neil Madden