Re: [Cfrg] Time to recharter CFRG as a working group? Was: Re: [secdir] ISE seeks help with some crypto drafts

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Sun, 24 March 2019 14:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Time to recharter CFRG as a working group? Was: Re: [secdir] ISE seeks help with some crypto drafts
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Hiya,

On 24/03/2019 10:02, StJohns, Michael wrote:
>  I’d expect that
> going through a recharterng exercise to bring in line the documentation
> with the group behavior would lend more credence to the idea that the
> charter should be written for a WG.

I'm not at all convinced that that'd be worthwhile TBH. ISTM that cfrg
is functioning well, so a re-charter seems like it'd not be so useful,
and possibly worse (being distracting). cfrg's credibility comes from
it's output, not it's charter, for me at least.

S.