[CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live?
Sofia Celi <cherenkov@riseup.net> Fri, 20 September 2024 17:47 UTC
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This is a nice idea, Chris! At the risk of being ''too academic'' here, there is some way that conferences handle artifacts, for example, the CCS one: https://www.sigsac.org/ccs/CCS2024/call-for/call-for-artifacts.html Some of the tools (Zenodo, FigShare, Dryad, or Software Heritage) suggested there allow for versions, citations, DOI, and have a declared plan to enable permanent accessibility (which I think Github/Gitlab do not have). Thank you, On 20/09/2024 18:31, Christopher Patton wrote: > +1, this is my favorite idea on the thread so far. What do folks think > of this? > https://github.com/cfrg/draft-irtf-cfrg-vdaf/pull/430 <https:// > github.com/cfrg/draft-irtf-cfrg-vdaf/pull/430> > > Basically the RFC has a "Test Vectors" section that tells where the test > vectors are and how to consume them. Also, point to a git commit so that > the user can verify them: > > curl -L https://github.com/cfrg/draft-irtf-cfrg-vdaf/archive/\ <https:// > github.com/cfrg/draft-irtf-cfrg-vdaf/archive/\> > bb01e528dab1da66c3264347a7c020f2c3403494.tar.gz |\ > tar -zxf - "*/test_vec/*.json" > > Chris P. > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 3:46 AM Frank Denis > <cfrg=40pureftpd.org@dmarc.ietf.org > <mailto:40pureftpd.org@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: > > Hi Ori, > > This is very good idea. > > And if files are hosted in Git, publishing the hash is not even > necessary, as the URI can directly represent a specific revision. > > -Frank. > > > On Sep 20, 2024, at 03:03, Orie Steele > <orie@transmute.industries> wrote: > > > > I would want to ensure that the references made in RFCs are not > changed after publication. > > > > You could consider publishing the hash of the files along with > the references in an appendix. > > > > Hosting the files in a version control system and referencing > them that way seems like the least effort. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CFRG mailing list -- cfrg@irtf.org <mailto:cfrg@irtf.org> > To unsubscribe send an email to cfrg-leave@irtf.org <mailto:cfrg- > leave@irtf.org> > > > _______________________________________________ > CFRG mailing list -- cfrg@irtf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to cfrg-leave@irtf.org -- Sofía Celi @claucece Cryptographic research and implementation at many places. Reach me out at: cherenkov@riseup.net Website: https://sofiaceli.com/
- [CFRG] Where should test vectors live? Christopher Patton
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? D. J. Bernstein
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Orie Steele
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Watson Ladd
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Richard Barnes
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Orie Steele
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Björn Haase
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Carsten Bormann
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Carsten Bormann
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Björn Haase
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Carsten Bormann
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Peter Gutmann
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Frank Denis
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Frank Denis
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Christopher Patton
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Sofia Celi
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Colin Perkins
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Christopher Patton
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Christopher Patton
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Carsten Bormann
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? // Sug… Björn Haase
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Colin Perkins
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Christopher Patton
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Salz, Rich
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Jean Mahoney
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Christopher Patton
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? John Mattsson
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Peter Gutmann
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Björn Haase
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? D. J. Bernstein
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Bellebaum, Thomas
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- [CFRG] Re: Where should test vectors live? Phillip Hallam-Baker