Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves
Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Fri, 12 September 2014 15:41 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves
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On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Paterson, Kenny <Kenny.Paterson@rhul.ac.uk> wrote: > Hi > > You're correct, there was not consensus on this point. The whole > requirement is marked as [NC] on my list, meaning "no consensus". It's > true that I did not specifically call this aspect out as being "NC". > > However, 192-bit security was in the initial request from TLS WG as an > option. I don't see why we can't also solve this problem too (but I'm > prepared to drop it if it looks like it will prevent us from making > progress). > Kenny, I suspect that this may have been a case of misplaced concreteness on the part of the (former) chairs :) As you say, we did ask for 128, 192 (optional), and 256-bits. In my personal opinion if the CFRG came back and said "we only see value in 128- and 256-bits" that would be taken seriously. Best, -Ekr > Cheers > > Kenny > > On 08/09/2014 15:42, "Phillip Hallam-Baker" <phill@hallambaker.com> wrote: > > >I didn't see consensus that we needed 192 bit curves. > > > >These seem superfluous to me If I want speed then I will go to 128 > >bits. If I want high assurance I will go to 256. 192 is neither fish > >nor fowl. > > > >In a perfect world folk can make fine tuned choices between speed and > >security but I only have two security levels: paranoid and till the > >sun goes supernova secure level paranoid. > > _______________________________________________ > Cfrg mailing list > Cfrg@irtf.org > http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg >
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Paterson, Kenny
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves William Whyte
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Paterson, Kenny
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Paterson, Kenny
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Watson Ladd
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Paterson, Kenny
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves David Jacobson
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves D. J. Bernstein
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Michael Hamburg
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Paterson, Kenny
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Adam Langley
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Paterson, Kenny
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Adam Langley
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Damien Miller
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Damien Miller
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Torsten Schuetze
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Markulf Kohlweiss
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Alyssa Rowan
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Michael Hamburg
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Michael Hamburg
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Andrey Jivsov
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Andrey Jivsov