Re: [Cfrg] dragonfly, was: Re: Time to recharter CFRG as a working group? Was: Re: [secdir] ISE seeks help with some crypto drafts

Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz> Thu, 28 March 2019 03:40 UTC

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From: Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz>
To: Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org>, "cfrg@irtf.org" <cfrg@irtf.org>
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Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> writes:

>I'll wait.... For your list or a retraction of your busted narrative.

And that's why no-one felt like providing much feedback on Dragonfly:

https://twitter.com/rileycaezar/status/1108952576819552258

Peter.