Re: [Cfrg] IAB Comments Regarding the IRTF CFRG chair

Basil Dolmatov <dol@cryptocom.ru> Fri, 24 January 2014 05:30 UTC

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Trevor,

thank you for your efforts in demonstration that the system evolved is rock-solid and stable and cannot be influenced by any  community opinions ;)

In any case it was the nice try. Thanks again!

dol@
ROFL ;)

24 янв. 2014 г., в 7:32, IAB Executive Director <execd@iab.org> написал(а):

> The IAB thanks Trevor Perrin for his request for our review of the decision
> made by the chair of the IRTF regarding Kevin Igoe as co-chair for the
> CFRG.  We have taken Trevor Perrin's concerns and others' quite seriously,
> as we do the functioning of the IRTF and the CFRG.  We have also taken
> into account the comments that we have received from the community.
> 
> Sections 2  and 4 of RFC 2014 specify that changes to research groups
> are to be sent to us by the chair of the IRTF.  The IAB has concluded
> that the chair of the IRTF has, in accordance with RFC 2014,
> properly and diligently exercised his responsibilities by investigating
> the matter, taking community input, and providing a timely response
> that addresses the points that were raised by Trevor Perrin and others.
> In doing so, he has decided not to forward to us for consideration any
> changes to the CFRG at this time.
> 
> While it is certainly true that positions of individuals are often aligned 
> with those of their employers, RFC 2014 states: “Participation is by 
> individual contributors, rather than by representatives of organizations.”  
> We expect individuals to participate in the IRTF in their own capacity
> to further the research goals of the IRTF and the Internet community.  
> In doing so, we must all remember that as individuals we will all make 
> mistakes from time to time.  The best way for anyone to allay their 
> concerns about the direction and decisions of a group is to contribute
> their own ideas and actively review ideas of others, engaging in discussions 
> so that everyone's understanding can be improved.
> 
> We count on the chair of the IRTF to continually monitor the CFRG and all RGs
> to see that they function properly as specified by their charters.  Should he
> find that this is not the case with the CFRG in the future, he may at that time
> initiate changes in consultation with the RG and IRSG as specified in Section 4
> of RFC 2014.  We understand the CFRG is engaging in discussions on how to
> evolve itself and its procedures over time.  The RG may wish to more clearly
> specify the manner by which decisions are made and represented. We 
> encourage all interested parties to participate in those discussions, and we look forward to any changes the chair of the IRTF would bring to us as a result.
> 
> Please note that Russ Housley recused himself from this matter.
> 
> On behalf of the IAB,
> Mary Barnes
> IAB Executive Director
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