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Re: [Cfrg] ISE seeks help with some crypto drafts

Aaron Zauner <azet@azet.org> Sat, 09 March 2019 12:53 UTC

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> On 09.03.2019, at 02:32, Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Given this, and perhaps temporarily suspending discussion of the Jutla and Grigor patents, I'm curious what kind of IPR statement would be needed from Rogaway to alleviate concerns about his specific patents.

As far as I can remember the Grigor patents were only very very vaguely related to OCB with Rogaway filing a similar patent even before they did. So that’s something patent lawyers would have to fight over and work out, Rogaway told me back then that he isn’t worried about these patents. Also they expire in 2021.

Aaron

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