Return-Path: X-Original-To: cfrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cfrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B117C180B7F for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2024 12:42:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.606 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.606 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLACK=0.5, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=aiven.io Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fVpSLOzyKCoU for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2024 12:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ej1-x62f.google.com (mail-ej1-x62f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E365C1840C3 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2024 12:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ej1-x62f.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-a8692bbec79so760514066b.3 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2024 12:42:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=aiven.io; s=google; t=1724787769; x=1725392569; darn=ietf.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=wx4xuN07qwOYwf4wNpIBVBK5/4QSQPDbRDyPpoU+AF4=; b=pE8pTnNWtaDgnBdR48GhlGHX/jycjI4w+ZtOm4BZPMn7prKR/fpFPE4M7Sii7JG6km Q739bTMvh7J81gDbTkKe6yUp8pYfaXXbd2v+8rQEipfrsuRgPdOoV6eYzVVRajEj8mH+ gBhpbFeDfr4dHeqpR4fLdSIZw7iWtO+q4C2ao= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1724787769; x=1725392569; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=wx4xuN07qwOYwf4wNpIBVBK5/4QSQPDbRDyPpoU+AF4=; b=Qi7sievkfrEJzabFBjINpXT1X0CuM15qpdnVXXQ+5fJzZpqbNz0EyntC1fkNsFCmsn RAoJo2l24if4u+6MSprR4AWvHx6/VjR/cEBt0R7YbKfEdNPWPeyDbR3GwJc1kJ844268 Weo4ov2AQSesOL+ffE/WlxZOMxVnKHbYD2pnhkt7mQSExvZ8szryEziKRAJNy3nzwMk6 s6Vn5P5q4A5/uYTp4TGM6zE+PE87Ka9zIiRg4//I+x5iwV2YCAMuXdu8Ksd+8crngp8P 3YXKtalQlRhvDp4Dd4x2cHoBj+ll6ZqcmJy3baMOpHrk3ejc0jS+2lou8rPHqZVlPqmx f1YA== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCXJv/+1auzXOm8KUhz5nDbPZUzgz1KVtJ8jk0tq+r/zs02myuEblBa78Oo+0tr70WYVLMhl@ietf.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxtB8eaCzv6Kcmu9e2hFuqDDr0Ajvyj/sy9Bmrki9GZMcHPOUSd Rbqlh1fH60/NpCdDAbEwp72A+1mJcZkk4C/qB2KoCpV7zYiQalDAE/0dr+9+qUxN+Mno4RRIwby 1U1xvA3HzaBkXHf7p1rOYQ9uYGouAOPgYFjkxqA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFrbcpvy5Wf7FS9AQQq9UmP+hJwKe/0MdLFf71ZYfGGGAvGjrUAEKoZF60/2tc1MaUlvpgW6mTqb92wVK2UgjY= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:7ea1:b0:a86:9ba1:63ac with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-a86e3988e14mr307444066b.14.1724787768903; Tue, 27 Aug 2024 12:42:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Paul Wouters Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2024 15:42:37 -0400 Message-ID: To: "Kampanakis, Panos" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000047b47f0620af722e" Message-ID-Hash: ILINK5R4CMXHMM7RF7B5Z3AG7VPQ7AKD X-Message-ID-Hash: ILINK5R4CMXHMM7RF7B5Z3AG7VPQ7AKD X-MailFrom: paul.wouters@aiven.io X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-cfrg.irtf.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: "Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)" , "ipsec@ietf.org" , "cfrg@ietf.org" X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9rc4 Precedence: list Subject: =?utf-8?q?=5BCFRG=5D_Re=3A_=5BIPsec=5D_Re=3A_draft-kampanakis-ml-kem-ikev2?= List-Id: Crypto Forum Research Group Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --00000000000047b47f0620af722e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 11:51=E2=80=AFAM Kampanakis, Panos wrote: > CFRG had https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cfrg-schwabe-kyber/ , > https://bwesterb.github.io/draft-schwabe-cfrg-kyber/draft-cfrg-schwabe-ky= ber.html > for Kyber, but that was for the draft00 versions of Kyber deployed in ear= ly > TLS 1.3 codepoints. I believe the official spec for ML-KEM will be FIPS > 203. > Indeed. I was wrong. It is only for the hybrid's that have no normative references that we would need this. You are right that ml-kem would have a normative reference at NIST. My apologies for the error. Paul > --00000000000047b47f0620af722e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 11:51=E2=80=AFAM = Kampanakis, Panos <kpanos=3D40amazon.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

CFRG had https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cfrg-schwabe-kyber/ , https://bwesterb.github.io/draft-schwabe-cfrg-kyber/draft-cfrg-schwabe-kybe= r.html for Kyber, but that was for the draft00 versions of Kyber deploy= ed in early TLS 1.3 codepoints. I believe the official spec for ML-KEM will= be FIPS 203.


Indeed. I was wrong.= It is only for the hybrid's that have no normative references that we = would need this. You are right that ml-kem would have a normative reference= at NIST. My apologies for the error.

Paul
=C2=A0
--00000000000047b47f0620af722e--