[CFRG] Can I have a review of draft-fluhrer-lms-more-parm-sets?

"Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)" <sfluhrer@cisco.com> Mon, 08 February 2021 14:40 UTC

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From: "Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)" <sfluhrer@cisco.com>
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Subject: [CFRG] Can I have a review of draft-fluhrer-lms-more-parm-sets?
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Hi,

   Quynh Dang and I are trying to reserve IANA code points for the additional parameter sets within draft-fluhrer-lms-more-parm_sets.  The goal of these parameter sets is to reduce the signature size (by about a third on average) while maintaining a reasonably conservative security level (192 bits of security).

  One requirement for this to happen is found in the text of RFC 8554, which states (in section 8, IANA Considerations):

   Additions to these registries require that a specification be
   documented in an RFC or another permanent and readily available
   reference in sufficient detail that interoperability between
   independent implementations is possible [RFC8126].  IANA MUST verify
   that all applications for additions to these registries have first
   been reviewed by the IRTF Crypto Forum Research Group (CFRG).

   I am formally requesting such a review take place.

   Thank you