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Re: [CFRG] please use real names (was: Re: Small subgroup question for draft-irtf-cfrg-hash-to-curve)

Michael Sierchio <kudzu@tenebras.com> Sun, 11 April 2021 19:15 UTC

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From: Michael Sierchio <kudzu@tenebras.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 12:15:11 -0700
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Subject: Re: [CFRG] please use real names (was: Re: Small subgroup question for draft-irtf-cfrg-hash-to-curve)
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On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 11:38 AM Michael StJohns <msj@nthpermutation.com>
wrote:
> ...

> I imagine that there would be an uproar if a pseudonymous participant
> proposing a particular cryptographic construct were later found to be a
> member of a government body - or for that matter a sock puppet of
> another participant.
>
> ...

Plausibly non-hypothetical, I suppose.

I think it's fine to adopt a «nom de guerre», but I do confess
to an inclination to dismiss the comments of those who are
aiming at anonymity but manage to achieve absurdity.  It's very
nice that this group allows for amateur cryptographers (a
category that includes me).

I agree with you in requesting that participants let us know who
they are, or – if they believe they have good reason to hide
their identity – to say why they can't.

Cheers.

– M

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