Re: [Cfrg] Requesting removal of CFRG co-chair

Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> Tue, 24 December 2013 02:05 UTC

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Kevin is a regular IETF attendee, and an author of several RFCs.

http://tools.ietf.org/googleresults?cx=011177064926444307064%3Arsqif7nmmi0&q=Igoe&sa=Search&cof=FORID%3A9&siteurl=tools.ietf.org%2Fhtml%2F&ref=&ss=3369j2532811j6

He is most definitely a real person.

--Richard






On Monday, December 23, 2013, Tao Effect wrote:

> Replying to myself:
>
> On Dec 23, 2013, at 7:16 PM, Tao Effect <contact@taoeffect.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > Given #3, I decided to do a quick google search for "Kevin Igoe". I
> couldn't find anything on him (at least none of the results seemed
> relevant).
> >
> > Let me preface the following by saying that I'd never heard of Kevin
> before I saw Trevor's proposal cross my news feed, but it seems to me that
> with so much public scrutiny on one person, you'd think that person would
> feel pressured into making some sort of statement in defense of themselves.
> >
> > Since this has not happened (yet), and Google couldn't answer my
> questions, I'll awkwardly ask this list: is Kevin Igoe a real person? Like,
> is that his real name? Where is the evidence?
>
> I did some more searching, and am still quite puzzled:
>
> - Kevin is introduced as co-chair with primary credentials as having "led
> the design of the SHA-1 hash algorithm."
> - The wiki page on SHA1 doesn't have his name
> - The first reference on the wiki [1] does not have his name
> - Googling "Kevin Igoe NIST" resulted in other documents, but no
> significant info on who Kevin actually is could be found.
>
> Earliest reference to "Kevin Igoe NSA" is a single document that claims to
> be from 1996, where his name appears once in the acknowledgments. [2]
>
> Next earliest (that I could find) is from 2009, where he again, is only
> listed in the acknowledgements. [3]
>
> Seems like a pretty shoddy basis to make an employee of the NSA co-chair
> of the CFRG. [4] At this point I'm still wondering whether this is a real
> name. Seems like it was inserted over the years to a bunch of
> acknowledgement sections, and that's it.
>
> Cheers
> Greg
>
> [1] http://csrc.nist.gov/publications/fips/fips180-4/fips-180-4.pdf
> [2]
> https://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsamint.htm
> [3] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5656
> [4] bs
>
> --
> Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing
> with the NSA.
>
>
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