Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action:draft-kiyomoto-kcipher2-02.txt
"Jim Schaad" <ietf@augustcellars.com> Thu, 14 April 2011 00:22 UTC
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From: Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
To: 'Wook Shin' <wookshin@kddilabs.jp>, cfrg@irtf.org
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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action:draft-kiyomoto-kcipher2-02.txt
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Personal opinion. It will be easier and clearer if you go back to using circular shift operations. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Wook Shin [mailto:wookshin@kddilabs.jp] > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 1:31 AM > To: cfrg@irtf.org; Jim Schaad > Subject: Re: I-D Action:draft-kiyomoto-kcipher2-02.txt > > Jim, > > That's my mistake. I think I made that mistake while converting circular shift > operations to the combination of XOR and non-circular shit operations. > > The notation in Section 2.1 should be corrected to > > <<n t t-bit left shift in an n-bit register > >>n t t-bit right shift in an n-bit register > > and then, the code > > SubK2((IK[3] <<32 8) XOR (IK[3] >>32 24)) > XOR (0x01, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00); > > should mean that > > (1) IK[3] gets left-shifted by 8 bits > (2) IK[3] gets right-shifted by 24 bits > (3) call SubK2() by giving "(1) XOR (2) XOR 0x01000000" > as the input parameter > > Best regards, > > Wook > > > > > On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:23:10 +0900, Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com> > wrote: > > > You have a notation that is leaving me puzzled. > > > > In section 2.1 you say > > > > <<n Left circular rotation by n bits > > > > >>n Right circular rotation by n bits > > > > Which makes sense. > > > > However in section 2.3.2 you use the notation > > > > SubK2((IK[3] <<32 8) XOR (IK[3] >>32 24)) XOR > > (0x01, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00); > > > > Which is not covered by the above. > > > > Additionally I wonder if you mean to use IK[3] in both locations here > > as (I think) > > > > (IK[3] << 8) XOR (IK[3] >> 24) ---> (IK[3] << 8) XOR (IK[3] << > > (32-24)) > > --> (IK[3] << 8) XOR (IK[3] << 8) > > > > jim > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Wook Shin [mailto:wookshin@kddilabs.jp] > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 6:39 PM > >> To: cfrg@irtf.org > >> Subject: Re: I-D Action:draft-kiyomoto-kcipher2-02.txt > >> > >> Hello all, > >> > >> I've revised our previous draft that explains the KCipher-2 stream > >> cipher. > >> The current version includes some code snippets written in the C > >> language syntax, so that it could help implementers get clearer idea > >> of how it works and help them check their outputs with the test > >> vectors mentioned in the draft. > >> The new version of the draft can be found at > >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kiyomoto-kcipher2-02.txt > >> > >> I have attached a naive implementation of KCipher-2 written in C. > >> Two files, KCipher2.c and KCipher2.h, are in the attached .zip file, > >> and no special option is required to compile and run the program. > >> The code snippets and the test vector running examples in the draft > >> are from the the attached code. > >> > >> Please look at the new version of the draft and the code, and let me > >> have your comments. > >> > >> Thank you, > >> > >> Wook > > > -- > Wook Shin > Information Security Laboratory, > KDDI R&D Laboratories, Inc.
- Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action:draft-kiyomoto-kcipher2-02.… Wook Shin
- Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action:draft-kiyomoto-kcipher2-02.… Jim Schaad
- Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action:draft-kiyomoto-kcipher2-02.… Wook Shin
- Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action:draft-kiyomoto-kcipher2-02.… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action:draft-kiyomoto-kcipher2-02.… Jim Schaad
- Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action:draft-kiyomoto-kcipher2-02.… Wook Shin
- Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action:draft-kiyomoto-kcipher2-02.… Wook Shin
- Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action:draft-kiyomoto-kcipher2-02.… Joachim Strömbergson
- Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action:draft-kiyomoto-kcipher2-02.… Wook Shin
- Re: [Cfrg] I-D Action:draft-kiyomoto-kcipher2-02.… David McGrew