Return-Path: X-Original-To: cfrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cfrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0293F130E6D for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2018 13:57:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id poAQl5mzEt6W for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2018 13:57:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wr1-x433.google.com (mail-wr1-x433.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::433]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39081130E2E for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2018 13:57:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wr1-x433.google.com with SMTP id j2so15318547wrw.1 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2018 13:57:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc:to :references; bh=Souv3jzfC9XJzKePgr738I1lEX/aGOL30e75Dyqcnp4=; b=ZFsrsboIZn/+2uka6SBBl6QW77PlYFXwK4ee+np5ZJ9hkMLt/V56WaNsl6+4eUlRab kTVa6TIhIw8hGmhIq6XOqKMAHBcSruknbAwIzDugfidTVxTy7GO9CLU8wIwcsSe9Gqqb TTV977vSUkdu+zAgpFMfXfHaMZTXC0Rhm8zw5xDQ/Tr90+P//4oDlIWb+sA3dO/4HUVj SWwndmq7N4ko3dGeXdO93QUL0R0QvbDcksmaejZ8HXMBZR+ROKS+0xSEm7soF8oWamjD Iyj8RP8BWi7dw7Jw58wnlo/BzOWhc7lsUGQdH7oeffhPuwucRt2PSZpuNgVu5GDGijAu ggZQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=Souv3jzfC9XJzKePgr738I1lEX/aGOL30e75Dyqcnp4=; b=NHgpoavWcEXM1y0a+UgXfoEUygyjvYEvzxN1ngli4MajX0sfk5kf1OXR6eA+o4ZG5+ 0VYGiBfGcZo20b25Plwi1i8XmFoH8xpLpn8uRQg2b5I0DA4AZp6RKANZIHXVsdgM0bFL PAhsvOL5Duv3wSZ3n8A6vDcSv/MFDvJ7TZNwEUot/SE8+q0IEpClaRv8tSj8Vd3zwSB4 mSNt6CSjSmKiGuL7IV0FEfxexs3MLLEsj+MRbdLh7L1yBkB+Z2gNcvD7Uuv1/uLbJwQx CRl78L8hygKNYkPOHUdCXoQjN5tSLxQC1ZeIxr36luCpmtQ0SC3scA52q+B7u2/tsfN/ nfqQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWZdUiDUWrg+69DnmnRgXVD5tH4vcAUv/S6mJEEwlBietKCk7AeH CvZ2vNoretZwwTXE+9Eapew= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/VcteBW17Dy5X9cbVm7ttqgWolB470DUupi67x9+yhRkgqKR64REiHpUN2zKppE82R7U5PQlw== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:6487:: with SMTP id r7mr19075701wru.263.1543096640695; Sat, 24 Nov 2018 13:57:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.12] ([46.120.57.147]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l13sm735663wmb.27.2018.11.24.13.57.18 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 24 Nov 2018 13:57:19 -0800 (PST) From: Yoav Nir Message-Id: <5438FEE5-585D-469D-8059-FE109F6D962D@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A473D770-DD23-40BC-895F-91BA48050A38" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.1 \(3445.101.1\)) Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 23:56:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: Cc: David McGrew , cfrg@irtf.org To: Scott Arciszewski References: <7A6B2092-B1D6-4394-B111-04F234230D1C@cisco.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.101.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Adoption call for draft-arciszewski-xchacha X-BeenThere: cfrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Crypto Forum Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 21:57:25 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_A473D770-DD23-40BC-895F-91BA48050A38 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi, Scott. The usual way is to add an IANA considerations section with text like = this: IANA is requested to assign an entry in the "Authenticated Encryption = with Associated Data (AEAD) Parameters" registry with = "AEAD_XChaCha20_Poly1305" as the name and this document as reference. (I just copied from the last draft of ChaCha20-Poly1305 and substituted = the name) This will get you an assignment when the draft goes to the RFC Editor. If for some reason you want this allocation earlier, you can fill out a = form here: https://www.iana.org/form/protocol-assignment = What IANA does when such a request is made is contact the designated = experts for this particular registry ( = https://www.iana.org/assignments/aead-parameters/aead-parameters.xhtml#aea= d-parameters-2 = ), and ask them if it=E2=80=99s appropriate. David is = one of those experts, BTW. In any case, I don=E2=80=99t think the AEAD number appears in any = protocol AFAICT, so I don=E2=80=99t think there=E2=80=99s much value in = getting an early assignment. Yoav > On 21 Nov 2018, at 1:57, Scott Arciszewski = wrote: >=20 > Hi David, >=20 > I've started work on these sections since draft02. I'm not sure how to = go about getting the IANA reservations. >=20 > = https://github.com/bikeshedders/xchacha-rfc/blob/984b586f3cb3c32ae475c2580= c505755e6de97dd/draft-arciszewski-xchacha-rfc-03.txt#L310-L406 = >=20 > Kind regards, >=20 > Scott Arciszewski > Chief Development Officer > Paragon Initiative Enterprises >=20 > On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 4:04 PM David McGrew (mcgrew) = > wrote: > Hi Kenny, >=20 > I support adoption, and will review the draft (actually, I already = commented on the draft on Oct 12). Some important nits: the draft needs = a security considerations section and an IANA section to register the = new AEAD. =20 >=20 > best >=20 > David >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 11/20/18, 6:23 AM, "Cfrg on behalf of Paterson, Kenny" = on behalf of = Kenny.Paterson@rhul.ac.uk > wrote: >=20 > >Dear CFRG, > > > >This email starts a 2-week adoption call for: > > > >https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-arciszewski-xchacha/ = > > > >XChaCha: eXtended-nonce ChaCha and AEAD_XChaCha20_Poly1305 > > > >Please give your views on whether this document should be adopted as = a CFRG draft, and if so, whether you'd be willing to help work on = it/review it. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Kenny (for the chairs) > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Cfrg mailing list > >Cfrg@irtf.org > >https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg = > _______________________________________________ > Cfrg mailing list > Cfrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg = > _______________________________________________ > Cfrg mailing list > Cfrg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg --Apple-Mail=_A473D770-DD23-40BC-895F-91BA48050A38 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi, = Scott.

The usual way = is to add an IANA considerations section with text like this:

IANA is requested to = assign an entry in the "Authenticated Encryption with Associated Data = (AEAD) Parameters" registry with "AEAD_XChaCha20_Poly1305" as the name = and this document as reference.

(I just copied from the last draft of = ChaCha20-Poly1305 and substituted the name)

This will get you an assignment when = the draft goes to the RFC Editor.

If for some reason you want this = allocation earlier, you can fill out a form here: https://www.iana.org/form/protocol-assignment

What IANA does when such = a request is made is contact the designated experts for this particular = registry ( https://www.iana.org/assignments/aead-parameters/aead-parameter= s.xhtml#aead-parameters-2 ), and ask them if it=E2=80=99s = appropriate. David is one of those experts, BTW.

In any case, I don=E2=80=99t think the = AEAD number appears in any protocol AFAICT, so I don=E2=80=99t think = there=E2=80=99s much value in getting an early assignment.

Yoav

On 21 Nov 2018, at 1:57, Scott Arciszewski <scott@paragonie.com>= wrote:

Hi = David,

I've = started work on these sections since draft02. I'm not sure how to go = about getting the IANA reservations.

https://github.com/bikeshedders/xchacha-rfc/blob/984b586f3cb3c3= 2ae475c2580c505755e6de97dd/draft-arciszewski-xchacha-rfc-03.txt#L310-L406<= /a>

Kind regards,

Scott Arciszewski
Chief Development = Officer
Paragon Initiative = Enterprises


On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 4:04 PM David McGrew = (mcgrew) <mcgrew@cisco.com> wrote:
Hi Kenny,

I support adoption, and will review the draft (actually, I already = commented on the draft on Oct 12).  Some important nits: the draft = needs a security considerations section and an IANA section to register = the new AEAD. 

best

David



On 11/20/18, 6:23 AM, "Cfrg on behalf of Paterson, Kenny" <cfrg-bounces@irtf.org on behalf of Kenny.Paterson@rhul.ac.uk> wrote:

>Dear CFRG,
>
>This email starts a 2-week adoption call for:
>
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-arciszewski-xchacha/=
>
>XChaCha: eXtended-nonce ChaCha and AEAD_XChaCha20_Poly1305
>
>Please give your views on whether this document should be adopted as = a CFRG draft, and if so, whether you'd be willing to help work on = it/review it.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Kenny (for the chairs)
>
>_______________________________________________
>Cfrg mailing list
>Cfrg@irtf.org
>https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg
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