Re: [Cfrg] Help with the use of contexts
Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com> Sun, 29 January 2017 23:24 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Help with the use of contexts
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> On 30 Jan 2017, at 0:33, Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>> On 17 Jan 2017, at 13:48, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> However, I really do wish that CFRG specs would not offer >>>> both choices - that will simply lead to repeating this >>>> discussion each time an IETF protocol wants to use the CFRG >>>> spec. And of course, different decisions will be made over >>>> time, >>> >>> Not over time. In the next few months the IESG is going to get documents about EdDSA signatures from TLS, IPsecME and curdle for signatures in TLS, IKE, and PKIX respectively. If the decision is not the same in all of them, I think (hope) that the IESG would ask why. >> >> So now that RFC 8032 is out and does include both choices, what is our advice to TLS, IPsecME and Curdle? Contexts or no? >> >> Yoav >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cfrg mailing list >> Cfrg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg > > No contexts. Why did we ever include them? Seemed like a good idea at the time. The thread begins here: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cfrg/GOPQ6lgJcfrXboexQmgNk_ZIZW8 <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cfrg/GOPQ6lgJcfrXboexQmgNk_ZIZW8> Regardless, ISTM that almost nobody is advocating for using contexts now for Ed448 in any of the above applications, or for using Ed25519ctx in there. Yoav
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