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[CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece drafts

John Mattsson <john.mattsson@ericsson.com> Wed, 29 January 2025 11:47 UTC

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From: John Mattsson <john.mattsson@ericsson.com>
To: Kris Kwiatkowski <kris@amongbytes.com>, "cfrg@irtf.org" <cfrg@irtf.org>
Thread-Topic: [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece drafts
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Subject: [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece drafts
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I agree that CFRG should prioritize things that are likely to be adopted by IETF, but I think it is important that CFRG is not limited to things that have a current customer in the IETF. This would be too limiting for an RG. CFRG must be able to work on things that are likely to be useful by the IETF long-term.
John

From: Kris Kwiatkowski <kris@amongbytes.com>
Date: Wednesday, 29 January 2025 at 12:30
To: cfrg@irtf.org <cfrg@irtf.org>
Subject: [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece drafts
i haven't seen anyone suggest that CFRG should not publish its own
specifications regardless of what NIST does. That's certainly not
my position. That would be an odd position to take as CFRG has
already done this a number of times.

For primitives like LMS, XMSS, and HKDF, it was IETF that originally developed the specifications, with NIST later incorporating them into its standards.

+1 for CFRG focuses on defining primitives that are likely to be adopted by IETF, ensuring they are well-vetted before becoming part of widely used protocols.

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